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Tennessee's Self-Imposed Two Year Probation: Are We There Yet?

Updated July 23, 11:35 PM - Here's more from KNS and Andrew Gribble:  some of the transcript from the NCAA's original and follow-up questioning of Bruce Pearl and his assistants surrounding the photo of Pearl with Aaron Craft.  This too shows more of not only Pearl's dishonesty, but the stupidity in lying.  They clearly knew about the photo before the questioning began.  And I'll defer to Joel's lawyering skill on this, but UT's lawyer directly asked Pearl if the picture was taken "in your home any place", and Pearl still said no?  They either thought it couldn't be proved, or Pearl really was that stupid on that fateful day.  For what it's worth, the transcripts don't change any of my opinions about the nature of UT's self-imposed penalties, it just goes to further show that Pearl really made some poor choices. 

A possible near-miss on Georgia Tech's athletic director aside, I keep telling myself that we're done digging our ditch around here.  The men with the shovels have all moved on, either by termination, resignation, or a hasty retreat to the West Coast, and in all cases Tennessee fans do or will count it as a blessing.  Feelings remain mixed on Bruce Pearl, but when the final punishment does arrive from on high at the NCAA, it still seems very likely that the length of the coming show-cause will reveal that we truly had no other option; Tony Jones' employment at Alcoa High School could suggest the same for him.

But even the worst possible punishment - postseason bans and scholarship reductions - would be for crimes we are no longer committing.  We've stopped making it worse on ourselves no matter how much the NCAA punishes us for our sins over the last three years.

The question of what Tennessee deserves for those sins is a good one.  It's been twenty years since the Vols were on probation or committed a major violation of any kind.  Now UT has reset its own accident count - the Knoxville News-Sentinel reported yesterday that Tennessee self-imposed a two year probation before the June meeting with the Committee on Infractions.  This is UT's most recent and final attempt to police itself for the crimes committed by its coaches.  On Bruce Pearl and the former basketball staff specifically, the count currently stands as follows:

  • $1.5 million in salary reduction
  • Staff taken off the road in recruiting in staggered amounts, up to one year for Pearl
  • Eight game SEC suspension (via Mike Slive)
  • Eventual termination of the most successful coaching staff in program history
  • Two year probation
  • No off-campus meals for 2011-12 during basketball recruiting visits (read:  no BBQ)

Tennessee's efforts with the NCAA have been to assign most if not all of the blame on Kiffin and Pearl.  The self-imposed penalties only affect Cuonzo Martin in terms of off-campus meals, and only affected Derek Dooley in the loss of six days in the Spring 2011 recruiting period, plus having only 50% of the football staff contact recruits on the first day of the Fall 2011 recruiting period.  They are, in my opinion, minor annoyances for two staffs that were not part of the problem and are trying to be part of the solution.

But two questions remain, and I'm not at all convinced they're the same:  is it fair?  And will it be enough for the NCAA?

Star-divide

From the KNS story by Andrew Gribble, here's the university's official statement to the NCAA as it self-imposed probation:

Outside of a handful of recruiting restrictions placed on the current football staff and a minor restriction placed on the new men’s basketball staff in 2011, the university believed that "the penalties imposed during the course of its investigation, coupled with its corrective measures, adequately address the violations that occurred."

"The University has taken what it believes are meaningful and appropriate steps to address the problems identified in this case," the response reads, "including declaring student-athletes ineligible, implementing enhancements to the compliance program, and self-imposing penalties upon the particular coaching staff members and sports programs that were designed to punish the head coach, deter similar conduct in the future, and offset any advantages that the programs may have gained."

And as it relates to Pearl and his staff specifically:

"Sadly, this became a case of a head coach and his assistants following a somewhat correctable secondary violation with a series of bad decisions," the response reads. "Those decisions put a proud and reputable program in substantial jeopardy and eventually led to the termination of employment of the four coaches, each of whom had a promising future at the University."

When the NCAA hits an institution with a Notice of Allegations, the school has 90 days to provide answers to a number of questions that either agree or disagree with the facts presented. UT’s response was lengthy, as the document, which featured numerous redactions to protect the names of currently enrolled students, nearly totaled 200 pages.

The university considered most of the allegations to be "substantially correct," though it did disagree with the severity attached to a few of the allegations.

It's the redactions that continue to be troubling, including unknown violations by Jason Shay and David Reaves.  So obviously, if there is something substantial underneath that black ink, it's even more difficult to anticipate what the NCAA will do and it's impossible to say what's fair.  (It's also worth noting that the KNS story reveals that the photo of Aaron Craft at Pearl's infamous BBQ was sent anonymously to the NCAA via U.S. Mail with the caption, "Question: Is having Aaron Craft a 2010 high school recruit in your home an NCAA violation? I wonder if the NCAA would think so …")

I'm also a bit curious as to why Tennessee didn't announce this self-imposed probation.  I mean, what did we stand to lose?  Not that our PR savvy has been on display at any point in the last three years or anything, but why exactly were we trying to keep quiet about a continual attempt to police ourselves well?

Will it all be enough for the NCAA?  Will additional punishment fall on Pearl, Kiffin, and their respective staffs, or will the NCAA come back at Tennessee with one or both of the things we thought too harsh and the NCAA thinks most substantial?  Are the Vols truly in danger of scholarship reductions and/or postseason bans?

Or has UT's self-imposed punishment fit the crime already?

Our friends at A Sea of Blue think not:

It is one thing for Bruce Pearl to have inadvertently violated the NCAA prohibition against having recruits over to his barbecue that ultimately lead to his lie to the NCAA investigators.  That would indeed be a secondary violation. 

But the evidence demonstrates that Pearl knew he was breaking the rules, and did so with malice aforethought and a deliberate attempt to gain a recruiting advantage.  That raises any NCAA violation, in my view, to the level of a major violation for which at minimum the failure to monitor charge comes into play. Anytime a head coach shows deliberate contempt for the rules, not just carelessness or inappropriate ignorance, it will boil the NCAA's blood, and should.

In the end, Tennessee will have to surrender scholarships in its basketball program, as almost every major recruiting violator would be expected to.  Regardless of what the UT attorneys say, this cannot be considered by any means a secondary violation, and it is insulting to me that they have tried to couch it as one.  I don't think these attorneys have effectively represented Tennessee, and I expect that the NCAA will be very displeased.

I hope the NCAA does not overreact in this case.  This UT response absolutely invites them, nay, dares them to do so, but I hope they decline the invitation.  What Pearl did was ... indescribably wrong, and at least to the level of Jim Tressel's malfeasance at Ohio State. Pearl has no defense whatever available to him, and at least Tressel has the defense of abject stupidity, even if that seems a major reach given the resources available to him.

I hope I'm wrong, Volunteers, but I think the NCAA is going to demand more.  Maybe much more.

I think seriously getting into the "Oh yeah, well at least we're not as bad as Team X!" game is the wrong approach, whether Team X is Ohio State or Kentucky (which is the natural UT fan response here), because in that game all parties are still guilty (recently in Ohio State's case, historically in UK's case).

(I think getting into it in jest, however, is always fun, so I'll just point you to my favorite metaphor for teams coached by John Calipari:  memorable, entertaining, but still looks and sounds like what it's ultimately been at UMass and Memphis, and still quite destructive even if you're not holding it when it goes off.  In jest, remember.  You shouldn't take anything from that movie seriously.)

I don't know if we should take Glenn's view that Pearl doesn't have abject stupidity as a defense as a compliment or an insult.  I still don't look at Pearl as primarily a cheater - I see him more as someone who was dishonest and then was incredibly stupid about who he was dishonest to.  Of course, I'm wearing my UT fan glasses; UK fans are probably more apt to see him differently, the same way we see Calipari differently.

As someone who truly hopes Calipari stays at Kentucky a long time, I do appreciate and echo Glenn's sentiments about not wishing harm on your rivals via the NCAA hammer; I do hope the fuse has been cut on any improper action associated with a Calipari program for the same reasons he mentions:  beating your rival when they're on probation is not nearly as fun.  UT fans will remember having much more fun beating Alabama when they were good than an Alabama handcuffed by sanctions.  I remain a firm believer that the best rivalries involve the success of both parties overall - I cheer for Alabama every single week before the Third Saturday in October, because it will mean more.  And I'm glad Kentucky is back to being Kentucky, and that they want Tennessee to be the Tennessee it's been for the last six years in basketball.  (As such, UT fans, please keep this good nature in mind if you head over to ASOB to comment.)

But is Tennessee, with their overall self-imposed response, really daring the NCAA to respond with an overreaction penalty because they were far too soft with their own?

Has Tennessee done anything to deserve a postseason ban?  Absolutely not.  Kiffin's sins belong to Kiffin, and the Vols can and have shown evidence of the steps they took to control him under David Blackburn.  Pearl's violations (not the lying to investigators, the violations themselves) should be considered secondary, and in my mind that includes the bump - there's not a coach in the country who wants to see a bump violation considered a major infraction, and Tennessee will argue it was a chance situation that was a true case of unfortunate timing and, again, more stupidity on Pearl's part not to at least mention it given the circumstances.  But a bump violation is ultimately harmless and always secondary.  Postseason bans should be reserved for programs that are habitual line-steppers, gaining competitive advantages for their sins.  None of those things can be said about Tennessee, and none of the people involved with the violations are still on campus.  The coaches and the athletic director who oversaw the violations are guilty.  Cuonzo Martin, Derek Dooley, and the current Vols deserve the chance to play for championships.

Has Tennessee done anything to deserve scholarship reductions?  Maybe.  Will the basketball program get hit with scholarship reductions?  Probably.  As such, should Tennessee have included that in its self-imposed penalties?

Like anyone who has pleaded guilty, UT is arguing that the punishment fit the crime, and in this case that the crime was committed by individuals who should receive harsher punishment than the institution.  It's tough, however, to lay 100% of the blame on Kiffin and Pearl but then say UT shouldn't receive a failure to monitor and/or lack of institutional control charge.

Still, the university can show tangible steps on monitoring and controlling Lane Kiffin, removed the other responsible parties from the equation, punished itself, placed itself on probation, and handed out minor penalties to the new coaching staffs.  I'm all for Tennessee defending itself based on what it believes to be a true and fair representation of the facts; I support the university doing what it believes to be right over what it believes will appease the NCAA.  And I don't think the way we've done it is baiting the NCAA into dropping an even bigger hammer on us.  There is clearly guilt here - the Vols are simply asking that it be rightfully assigned.

More than anything else, I'd just like to get on with it.  A postseason ban would be a crushing blow in either sport, but I simply do not, at all, believe that punishment fits any of our crimes.  Scholarship reductions are more likely and may be coming, but the university is always going to be at least somewhat responsible for the actions of its employees, and if the NCAA goes in that direction, so be it.  And I think Bruce Pearl is going to get show-caused in a big way, which will put to bed any thoughts we have left that keeping him was ever a real option.

Six weeks from today, football comes to Knoxville.  And when it does, I'd very much like to be past all of this.  We've put down our shovels and said goodbye to those who were digging.  We're waiting to find out exactly how deep this ditch has become.  And we've traded our diggers for men with ladders, who will do things the right way.

It's time to start climbing.

Go Vols.

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Excellent Post!

Will, I think that you have hit the nail on the head with your commentary. I think most of the fans are ready to move on. Whenever the NCAA brings its final decision, we should be able to accept it and move on. The level of uncertainty is with the new emphasis on deterrance, whether we will be made an example of.
Other fans are going to stick to the fact that Pearl was a cheat, etc. I think your assessment is fair. I’m still of the mind that the cover-up that Tressel committed and the fact that they convinced the NCAA to play Pryor and crew the bowl game is far more deserving of the major violations and the consequential punishment than what was done by Pearl or even Kiffin.
Thanks for presenting a well written review of the situation and providing voice to what most fans are feeling about it.

by LTVol99 on Jul 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Well done

I can’t really say I disagree with anything you’ve written.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

cocknfire

Over at TSK implies that we’re trying to get away with something as habitual linesteppers or cheaters. Normally I really enjoy his writing, but I’m not sure he even has his information correct… and that seems to be pretty prevalent in the football blogosphere right now re: Tennessee’s investigation.

The fact is we had several commitments over for a BBQ, and Pearl lied about it. Outside of that, all the other violations are normally not only secondary in nature but so minor that they are typically bundled in a self-report withot penalties.

Kiffin made 16 excessive phone calls in more than a year, and got hit with a failure to create an atmosphere of compliance… which is fancy talk for the NCAA charging him with making fun of them. The man is only guilty of being a douchebag, and if the NCAA inflicts any serious punishment on him then we will have proof they are petty and vindictive.

Honestly, I think many UK fans are so sick of losing to us in football that they’ll take a win any way they can… and many South Carolina folks are concerned that we’re going to resume our regular spot ahead of them shortly and wouldn’t mind the NCAA preventing that. And they’ve gotten themselves so excited with the idea of us getting hammered(along with AU/LSU/Arky) there is really no point in discussing this with them until the final ruling.

We will get somewhat hammered in basketball… thinking a loss of 2 schollys and an outside chance of a postseason ban… football should not be touched in any significant way. 2 years of 1 or 2 scholly loss is possible but unlikely. These projects all go out the window if the NCAA stupidly decides that setting an example is a good idea instead of just horribly inbalanced and useless as a form of prevention.

by Caban on Jul 23, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

There's no point in discussing this with an fan of another team.

They all have bias no matter what pretense they throw up and many will be outright hypocrites. Hell, I’m tired of talking about this with Tennessee fans tbh, much less some idiot gas pumper or Calipari disciple.

I don’t care how we get punished, just get it over with so we can go back to being the ones that don’t do this stuff like we traditionally have been since the NCAA handed out the first death penalty. Bonus points for knowing who the recipient was….

"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan

Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

by VolBrian on Jul 23, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it's worth bonus points, I guess it can't be SMU

In which case, I’m stumped

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 23, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

KENTUCKY

"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan

Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

by VolBrian on Jul 23, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The day I take moral advice from the school that hired Calipari

is the day you can out me in the cold, cold ground. **** KENTUCKY.

by danmarcel on Jul 23, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like

You feel about Kentucky they way that I feel about the Criminal Tide (yes, I understand the irony of that being in a post about our own transgressions).

by GhostDance on Jul 23, 2011 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Another instant classic from Will...

Especially the last few sentences. They would be called “pure gold” a trillion times on other blogs.

There just seems to be something terribly wrong with hitting the institution harder than the individual idiots. UT has shown very sincere corrective action…that has to count for something, right?

by GhostDance on Jul 23, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If we vacated our record for the past 10 years,

would that be considered a punishment or a reward? Since we’ve pre-emptively done all these other things, I say we go for it!

Whatchoo talkin' bout, Bilas?

by Huge Alien Head on Jul 23, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Post is updated up top

with a link to this story from KNS that’ll be in Sunday’s paper, which pulls quotes from the transcript of the interviews with Pearl and his staff by the NCAA. Andrew Gribble reports that at least Pearl and UT’s lawyer knew about the photo six days before the interview, and still chose to lie about it. Dishonesty and stupidity continue to surround the whole ordeal.

by Will Shelton on Jul 23, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I love Pearl...

but that deserves a multi-year show cause. Anything less would set a bad precedent.

by Caban on Jul 24, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got my Maple Street Press magazine...

Been taking care of ill grandparents, and ir’s been an absolute lifesaver. As always, the quality of writing is fantastic and the format is something nobody else offers. The magazine by UT fans for UT fans, with a healthy dose of objectivity and an enormous dose of knowledge. Absolutely fantastic, guys.

How do you guys select articlez and writers for inclusion? Is it possible to submit writing for consideration? I’m a journalism student and would love to get published, and have an absurd amount of historical sources. I’d also like to suggest that a weekly mail newsletter would be somethinf I would love to subscribe to in-season.

by Caban on Jul 24, 2011 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, Caban. Honor to you for caring for your grandparents.

I usually set the table of contents and the contributors sometime in January. We’re open to anyone who writes well. If you want to send me some writing samples in December/January so I don’t forget, we can talk then.

SBN is rolling out email newsletters. I’m not sure when they’ll make it around to the college sites, but they’re already available for the NFL sites. We should get them sooner rather than later, I think.

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by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 24, 2011 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I truly think there is a separation...

…between violations that affect the integrity of the actual games and violations that do not affect the integrity of the games, even when examining those violations after the fact and seeing their result.

Let me unpack that:

Jim Tressel’s dishonesty and Bruce Pearl’s dishonesty carry one major difference – Tressel’s dishonesty kept players eligible to play for OSU and helped them win games, while Pearl’s dishonesty did nothing to help UT win anything.

It matters what the result is. Take two identical felony robberies where the crook hits a security guard on the head with a tire iron. The first one, the robbery happens, but the guard doesn’t die. In the second robbery, the security guard dies. The crook in the second one is going to get hit with a murder charge.

Now I know that no one has died here, but I think that example illustrates my point here. Same crime with a more harmful result warrants a harsher punishment.

“at least to the level of Jim Tressel’s malfeasance at Ohio State.”???
Bullcrap.

by spiritofthehill on Jul 24, 2011 6:02 AM EDT reply actions  

The comparison might be a bit excessive...

but I completely agree with you about the difference between a secondary violation and lying to cover it up, and knowingly withholding information that would affect the eligibility of players. That, to me is always the big concern with regards to NCAA violations: How did whatever infraction affect the outcome of a competition, whether it be recruiting a player (where the school and coaches are competing for the services of an athlete) or an actual game.

In this case, how the NCAA itself grades the infraction is quite telling.

Having recruits of a certain age over to the coaches house is against the rules, but the NCAA recognizes that it is of only small value in recruiting, so it is simply a secondary violation. If Pearl had self reported the violation, none of this is even a conversation. However, if, as in aOSU’s case, the coach knowingly withholds information that would affect a player’s eligibility, IE your star QB receiving cash/benefits, then the outcomes of actual games are affected, and the punishment is, and should be much more severe. It’s simple: hundreds of student-athletes were affected by Tressel’s decision to withhold the information, not just the players who would have lost eligibility, but their teammates, and the members of every team that faced aOSU while they continued to play players who they knew to be ineligible.

So, while there is a small basis of comparison in that both coaches are guilty of withholding info about NCAA infractions, the very nature of the infractions themselves, and most importantly, the possible repercussions of the infractions, would be much more telling.

Which just goes to show you that homerism can severely cloud your judgement. When you start to see conclusions equating a minor infraction and cover-up to the Tressel debacle, you have to realize that the person making the argument is not even trying to be reasonable, and I would tend to hold a very skeptical light to any conclusion that author would make. It’s one of the reasons I love coming to RTT: Yes, we are partisans for our beloved Vols, but I have to say that the authors here do a fantastic job of trying to be objective about reality, and don’t just pump up the Vols while denigrating the competition. On A Sea Of Whiiiinnne and Anchors of Pretentiousness, you will not see the same.

by ChicagoVol on Jul 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree that RTT is one of the more measured fan sites

but we did defend Pearl (including lobbying to keep him) longer than was justified. Or at least longer than I thought was justified.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 25, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the whole "We should keep him even in the face of up to a one year suspension" thing

is going to end up being extremely optimistic. I feel like Pearl would do backflips for a one year show-cause at this point.

by Will Shelton on Jul 25, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 25, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

#TeamPearl

I was not among them.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jul 25, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't either

except on gamedays.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 25, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really bad lawyering by UT

Why on earth would UT’s OWN LAWYER ask the most dangerous questions during the probe? This is akin to a Bill Clinton lawyer asking if Bill recognized the substance on Monica’s dress or Dubya’s lawyer asking if he was 100% sure – not 95%, but 100% sure – that the intel on the WMDs was real (equal opportunity – apolitical). The point of that is your own lawyer shouldn’t wrap the noose around your neck and yell, “Pull”.

Bruce does deserve some time off for stupidity. Lying should be punished severely. Kiffin’s brashness and bold flaunting of the rules is worse. In Bruce’s case, the rules violated are really silly. NCAA says no burgers at the coach’s house and no rides in the car by a current player. Why Bruce felt the need to lie about it – still escapes me. If we learn anything from politics, the cover-up is worse than the crime.

As to the Coach Cal apologists, I’ve had a number of conversations with high level donors at Memphis and all of them say that Cal was smart – plausible deniability, cut-outs, third party influencers, pick your phrase. NONE of them would answer the question whether they thought he was clean. “He’s never been caught.” “Everyone is a little dirty.” Etc. These are people who still like him, despite the way he left Memphis and what he left behind. If he does the same thing to Kentucky, I hope they remember….

Hey, bad guys. Look up in the sky. See the UAV? Nope? We see you. "Don't laze me, bro'!"

by memphispete on Jul 24, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Bad lawyering?

Gribble’s story is unclear who brought up the idea that the photo was from Pearl’s house in the assistants’ interviews, but Pearl’s interview took place after the assistants’ interviews. I think it’s fair to assume that question was going to be asked of Pearl during his interview by the investigator. Glazier may have been attempting to provide Pearl an opportunity to come clean, an opportunity Pearl obviously ignored.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jul 24, 2011 12:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anybody else read the Tony Jones “Photoshop defense”?

Wow.

by GhostDance on Jul 24, 2011 11:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And...

That was the best one…honestly.

by GhostDance on Jul 24, 2011 11:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Glenn followed up over at ASOB

with more here – he raises the point about what the NCAA will think about us not firing Pearl immediately when he admitted his lie, which is a fair question. You can go back and read about it here plenty – I’d be curious to know if the powers that be had any such conversation back then and how seriously they took it, because even at that tearful press conference I don’t think any of us thought he wouldn’t be the coach here a few months later. Some of it was timing, some of it was the fierce love for Pearl, and I do think a lot of it still was perception: “You’re firing Pearl over a BBQ and a lie, really?” Because the violations weren’t sexy enough, I’m not sure anyone thought it would end that way. Obviously they had no problem going against the masses to pull the trigger on him in March, but back then? Who would’ve coached the team since the entire staff was guilty? And would we have been any better off?

by Will Shelton on Jul 24, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

agree regarding the violation not being sexy enough

also, I really wonder if the university’s plan all along was to try to keep things steady until the season was out and then fire Pearl in March when there was actually a market for new coaches.

If that’s what went on (which would mean they were lying to the fans), they weren’t thumbing their nose at the NCAA, which was the perception. But it seems to me that that course of action would be more prudence than impudence.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 24, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Tressel/OSU situation is worse than the Pearl situation

Also, you have no idea what the NCAA will do, simply because of how inconsistent they are.

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by btcoop71 on Jul 25, 2011 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

So UT self-imposed probation but didn't tell anyone about it?

I guess that’s called single-secret probation?

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jul 25, 2011 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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