Tennessee vs Florida - A New Chapter
The Tennessee-Florida rivalry may be the product of league expansion and Steve Spurrier, but its lifeblood is mutual success. Without the history of Tennessee-Alabama or the geographical proximity of Tennessee-Georgia, the Vols and Gators need each other to be good for the rivalry to get to that next level. The fact that Florida has won six straight in this series is almost an afterthought: the Vols haven't been good enough for that to really mean anything to Florida, and we've been too busy dealing with our own problems to worry about those the Gators were creating for us.
We continue to hammer the theme that it's not about getting back, it's about moving forward. Saturday's game cannot measure up to any in the golden era of the Vols/Gators series, when both teams were ranked in the Top 10 for almost an entire decade. But for a number of reasons, it's going to have the same big game feel.
It's the first real test for Will Muschamp. It's the first actual big game for Derek Dooley - the Kentucky game last year and the Cincinnati game last week were important, but only relatively so. This game is the real thing. It's the first time the Vols come into this game at 2-0 since 2006. And it is what it always should be: the tone-setter for both teams, and the first step in an increasingly crowded SEC East race.
The 2011 version of Tennessee-Florida matters for those and many other reasons. But the Tennessee-Florida rivalry itself has a chance to truly matter again not just because both programs could be on the rebound, but because of the two men in charge of that process.
The story writes itself: Derek Dooley and Will Muschamp, good friends and students of Saban, in command of the two teams that have had the most success in the SEC East. (Random rasslin fact: in 1996 WWF put on a pay per view called "Good Friends, Better Enemies", which is my nomination for what we'll call this era of the Tennessee-Florida rivalry if it lives up to the hype. It's much more poetic than the "Can't spell Citrus without UT" era.)
It is, as Clay Travis pointed out on our podcast this week, an Eastern Division that feels very up for grabs - not just this season, but in the immediate future as well. With Mark Richt in trouble and Steve Spurrier now 66 years young, Dooley and Muschamp - though incredibly unproven as head coaches - have an opportunity to lead their programs to the front of the pack.
Dooley got his feet wet last year, but as we're always quick to remind you, that was Year Zero. Will Muschamp will be awarded no such luxury on the calendar - the bar is set higher in Gainesville, and the Gators haven't gone through the unique transitions the Vols faced in the last three years. Still, even if this game is Dooleyan Year One vs. Actual Year One, the Vols should have every advantage in this particular intangible. This is Muschamp's very first big game as a head coach. It's Dooley's first trip to The Swamp, but he earned his stripes in Baton Rouge and Athens last fall.
History tells us we can't automatically assume good things against first year coaches, however. In fact, Tennessee is traditionally horrible against them: Nick Saban (twice), Gene Chizik, Ron Zook, Urban Meyer, and Mark Richt all beat the Vols in their first season at the helm. Steve Spurrier also did it at South Carolina; it's been twenty-one years since the Vols obliterated him 45-3 in his first appearance in this rivalry, a game that almost certainly caused Spurrier to run up the score whenever he had a chance to against us to return the favor.
UT's losses to Zook and Meyer in their first years were particularly frustrating: Casey Clausen in the rain in 2002, the last time we thought the Vols were getting ready to take the East Division by the horns. And with another preseason top five team, the Vols met special teams disaster in The Swamp in 2005 in a 16-7 loss to the Gators in Meyer's first appearance.
There are no guarantees...but now that all the players have changed in this rivalry, that may include history itself.
Dooley and Muschamp have a chance to write their own history in this rivalry...and it may get started with the Vols attempting to throw out the first rule of Tennessee-Florida:
The team that wins rushing yards wins the game.
Seventeen times in nineteen years, it's been true. The only two exceptions are The Jabar Gaffney Game (which brings us to the second, and almost certainly still valid rule of this rivalry: Do not kick field goals, score touchdowns), and the aforementioned 2002 game where the Gators repeatedly saw short fields thanks to UT fumbles and couldn't pick up a ton of yards.
Everything we've seen from the Vols suggests winning the rushing battle won't be one of their strengths, in this or any contest this fall. Everything we've seen from Florida suggests Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps will get their yards on the ground.
But again: all the players have changed. Derek Dooley and Jim Chaney step into their second year of this rivalry, but almost every one of their offensive weapons from last year's game have changed. That really includes Tauren Poole, who got banged up against the Gators last year. Matt Simms is now number two, and Gerald Jones, Denarius Moore, and Luke Stocker have all graduated. For Tyler Bray and Da'Rick Rogers, this will be brand new. And Justin Hunter had 3 catches for 60 yards in this game last year as purely a deep threat. Now, he takes center stage.
None of the coaches or players responsible for Tennessee's six game losing streak are around anymore. This is a new day in this rivalry...and the Vols' best chance to win sure looks like it will come from throwing away the golden rule of this rivalry, and dancing with the one that brought them: In Tyler We Trust.
The Vols tried it in The Swamp with Andy Kelly and lost 35-18. They tried it with Heath Shuler and lost 41-34. They tried it with Peyton Manning and lost 62-37 and 33-20. They tried it with Erik Ainge and lost 59-20. Every Tennessee team that has gone to Gainesville and started a shootout has died a terrible death by a bigger gun.
But those guns were in the hands of Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Doug Johnson, and Tim Tebow. This time, it's in the hands of John Brantley. In his third start under Charlie Weis. With personnel more suited to run a different attack.
The old UT teams didn't lose shootouts in The Swamp because the Gator defense shut down the Vol offense. They lost because they started fights they couldn't finish, and Florida's offense overwhelmed the UT defense, with an assist from Vol turnovers. But this year? The Vols aren't great on defense, but can this new, untested Florida offense win a shootout? Against Tyler Bray?
Never before has it been more apparent that Tennessee is at its best in the passing game. And never has a Florida offense come into this game with such little faith in their own ability to win a shootout. If the Vols are going to win in Gainesville, it seems almost certain that they will do so because of their talented sophomores at quarterback and wide receiver. Tyler Bray, Da'Rick Rogers, and Justin Hunter have none of the negative history we all associate with playing these guys...and after last Saturday, they should have all the confidence they need to get it done.
It's a brand new day for Tennessee and Florida, with two brand new coaches who could bring us into a great new chapter of this rivalry. They'll have to do their part by getting their programs back into the national elite, a journey that will most likely play out over the course of this and next season for both teams.
But on Saturday, only one gets off to a good start.
Forget everything you know about Tennessee and Florida. With the right hand of Tyler Bray, the Vols can write a new chapter.
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Great write-up, as usual, Will
Although I’m pretty sure “the first step in an increasingly crowded SEC East race” was last week in Athens. Let’s call this the second step.
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by birdjam on Sep 13, 2011 8:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is how ready I am for this game
while I think we should throw out the history for our matchup specifically, in my mind I’ve already gone back to the UGA/Carolina game being inconsequential and the winner simply playing for third in the East.
by Will Shelton on Sep 13, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice write up
amd I think you’re probably right. UTs best chance is most likely to let Bray air it out against our young secondary. I’m far more worried about this game, than I’ve been in years. It should be a realy fun game, and more than likely UTs protection of Bray, or Florida’s ability to break through that protection, will be what decides this game. If Bray has all day to throw, it will go poorly for the Gators. Conversely, if the return of Floyd, and some more exotic looks from Muschamp and Quinn can put Tyler on the run, or on hiis back, I think Florida controls this game. Looking forward to it. Go Gators.
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Pretty good analysis
Sounds about right. Time for our young line to earn their pre-season praise in a big way.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Cosigned.
Sacks and/or turnovers are the key in this one. It’s Florida’s defense vs. Bray.
by David Hooper on Sep 13, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Why I am not worried about the pass rush
One of the things that Tyler Bray does very well — and this isn’t an improvement; it’s something that I noticed last year as well — is that he gets rid of the ball very very quickly. This is very much an innate part of who he is as a QB. I want to be clear here that this isn’t him rushing or hurrying to get the ball out of his hands. He is just extremely decisive. Indeed there are many instances where it appears that his throwing motion begins on the second stop of his drop.
Now on some routes he will have to take more time in the pocket if the play is slowly developing or he is going 70 yards downfield for a sure Justin Hunter TD. And an effective pass rush could undermine some such plays.
But it isn’t going to stop the basics of what we do like it would if we had a QB who was not quite as innately decisive.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Sep 13, 2011 2:57 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm still worried about it
But I do think Tyler is the sort of QB whose skill set is strong against a good rush. Especially compared to say. . . Matt Simms.
Heel for school, Vol for life!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Sep 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't paid very close attention to this in the past.
But now that you bring it up, I have noticed it.
Especially against Montana. They were running some nice blitz packages and often getting a free rusher to him, and he really didn’t get hit THAT often.
I’d like to go back and watch the last two games and just pay attention to that, now.
If his release continues to be good and he can stay as accurate as he’s been the last two games, he’s going to make a lot of fans come NFL draft time.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Sep 13, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I do think there will be plenty of draft buzz around Mr. Bray...
…when the time comes.
Hopefully not too too soon
No homer.
Great write up.
I wish Saturday would hurry up and get here. I’m getting anxious/excited chills just thinking about it.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Sep 13, 2011 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
Man, awesome stuff, Will
I’m just getting more and more excited.
It’s going to be a bummer when I have to miss the first hour of the game … but I’ll DVR it and catch up. The anticipation is really destroying me.
I don’t think Brantley can beat us in a shootout. I just hope our O line protects Tyler so he can do what he does. I worry about pressure because Florida hasn’t shown much on defense yet.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
come on vols
gotta salvage my football fix now that the Titans are a dumpster fire. as long as one of them are competitive at all times, i’m good. what do we know about florida’s secondary?
Pearl for Life.
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
It's clearly impossible for the Vols and Titans to be good in the same year
What I know for sure about Florida’s secondary is it’s not as good as it would’ve been with Janoris Jenkins back there.
by Will Shelton on Sep 13, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
So on Saturday, the secondaries in the Swamp will be short Janoris Jenkins and Janzen Jackson.
Double alliteration ftw!
by David Hooper on Sep 13, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The Vols have been hunting for that statement win for a while now.
During Fulmer’s long decline, going back to the SECCG in 2001, Tennessee failed to beat a top ten team for years, except for the upset at Miami (Kellen Winslow meltdown game. Good times.). Tennessee started to consistently become underdogs against the SEC powers. It started losing games at home to teams that many considered inferior at the time. Occasionally, the Vols backed into another SEC title game appearance, but never as a favorite. Never appeared in another BCS bowl after winning the first BCS title. Finally, it hit rock bottom and Fulmer was gone. In Kiffin’s only season, there were two points that provided some optimism, but they were both losses: the heartbreaking loss to Alabama on a blocked FG, and then not getting clobbered by Florida after all the hype about Kiffin daring to not pay Urban Meyer the proper respect (more on this in a second). Last year, Tennessee for one fleeting moment appeared to have done the unthinkable and upset the mighty LSU Tigers in their own stadium, supposedly the hardest place in the SEC, maybe even the country, to win for a visiting team. And then, cruel fate intervened. So, Tennessee is still looking for that “statement” win that says, “We’re back.” Beating Florida may not have the gravity it once did when Spurrier and Fulmer were at the top of college football’s hierarchy, but it would still be an impressive feat to go down to the Swamp and win.
The beauty of Kiffin’s one game against the Gators was that the world of sportswriters spent MONTHS going on and on about how Urban Meyer was going to destroy the Vols for Kiffin’s brashness and teach him a lesson for what, honestly, was just a bit of off-the-cuff silliness as Kiffin tried to pump UT fans up when he was first hired. Even though I loathe Lane Kiffin, I thought the storm over that comment about leading the band after beating Florida was absolutely ridiculous. What is a new head coach supposed to say? “I’m dang sure glad to be here, but gosh, Florida is just so awesome!” Stupid. And after that, Kiffin said nothing on the subject. Nothing. And so expectations were that Florida would hammer Tennessee. And then… Florida did nothing of the sort. Tennessee threatened at times, but it never quite appeared they would really pull the upset, but they didn’t need to. All Kiffin had to do was not get blown out. And if you are like me, you left that game – dejected by another loss to Florida, of course – feeling like we were, well, not so bad.
But, for all the optimism that might have come with hanging in there on the road with the two best teams in the SEC until the final whistle, everything came unraveled in a huge way. Kiffin left for his dream job. What was left of his heralded recruiting class would be gone in a year, lost in a war of attrition against academics, transfers, run-ins with the police, and other off the field issues. So, Dooley comes in, and again, UT’s defining moments of the year are two losses, but not moral victories. These were gut-wrenching games that saw the team celebrating on the field only to have it yanked away. The 2010 campaign will be remembered most for those two losses. So, here we are, still looking for that first feather in the Davy Crockett hat in the post-Fulmer era.
Now, Florida may not be as sexy an opponent as they were two years ago. Last year, they had a disappointing campaign, Urban Meyer is gone, and a new coaching staff and system that we know very little about is in place. South Carolina (!), not Florida, is projected to win the SEC East. So, it’s not quite David taking down Goliath, but if Tennessee is going to be a factor in this conference race, it’s a game that the Vols need to win. And more than that, for once, Tennessee needs to start having season defined by wins, not losses. So, in that respect, this is a big game for Tennessee. It certainly won’t put the Vols in the driver’s seat to Atlanta – lots of conference play left including games against LSU and Alabama – and conversely a loss doesn’t end the season, but a win would mean Tennessee matters again.
by Nabb1 on Sep 13, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
everybody always forgets the '04 Georgia game
It irks me, because I loved the ‘04 Georgia game. That’s the highest-ranked opponent we’ve beaten since 2001, but nobody ever lists it among the best wins of the last decade.
Agree with everything else you say here.
Heel for school, Vol for life!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Sep 13, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
the 04 uga game is my second favorite game I've attended on the road
The first… Florida 2003. Hail Mary from Clausen to Banks to end the half…awesome game and well worth the insane sunburn I got!
sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.
by RockyTopinKY on Sep 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
i was there as well in 04
that was beyond awesome
Pearl for Life.
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
Also, we did go back to the BCS
Even after a disheartening loss to Florida in September, the ’99 team was in line to go back to the championship before choking it away against Arkansas in November. They did make it to the Fiesta Bowl where they got clobbered by Nebraska.
I mentioned this on the podcast
For me, this is the most anticipated game since 2006 LSU. I don’t count Cal in ‘07 because we always look forward to the season opener. The big wins in ’07 – Georgia and Kentucky – were great, but the losses and the uncertainty with Fulmer made us anticipate them differently. And if we’re honest, most of us didn’t give ourselves much of a chance to beat LSU in Atlanta that year, even though we almost did.
So it’s been five years since I’ve been this excited about a game in the week leading up to it. And since we got JaMarcus Russelled in that game, I agree with I_S: a win on Saturday would feel like the biggest one since Georgia 2004.
by Will Shelton on Sep 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree on the Fla hype going into the '09 game
It was ridiculous. What was the spread? Like 28.5? And you had a slew of national columnists — intellectual superheavyweights like Pat Forde — saying the spread was way too low. Set it at 50. You can’t set it too high for urban to cover.
It was honestly as though the entire media actually believed that Urban Meyer was a Jedi Knight. That he could simply glance up to the scoreboard and points would magically appear.
Anybody who bet on UF to cover that spread should have been immediately denied the right to reproduce. There should have been a federal law passed the next day, and a subsequent massive tying of tubes to prevent further proliferation of abject stupidity and help give the planet earth a fighting chance.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Sep 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Nervous
My belly is nervous and it’s only Thursday. I hate that I love UT football so much.
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