Still No New Defensive Coordinator for the Vols
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 12, 2012 8:29 AM EST
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PrintFirst, a public service announcement. I almost lost the entire morning due to having to remove Win 7 Antispyware 2012 from the second computer in our house in six weeks. Do yourself a favor and print out the instructions from Bleeping Computers before it happens to you. And download and use Malware Bytes because it does. The doctor who through deception attempts to convince you that you are dying from cancer so that you will pay him money to give you cancer is Evil Exponential. If you have more than one computer, you'll be fine, but if you have only one, you'll want to get Malware Bytes and, just in case, do that Bleeping Computer first step before it happens. Good luck. May you never know what I'm talking about.
And now that I actually write that and get back to work I realize that I have indeed lost everything I did this morning. Blame some hacker in the Ukraine. Let's call him Peggy. So quickies:
- Still no new defensive coordinator. Sunseri apparently did interview yesterday, but navy DC Buddy Green is also interviewing today. Somebody check the Navy media guide and get back to the rest of us in the comments. Also, it does appear that Harry Hiestand is serious about a lateral move to Notre Dame, but that may be one defection many fans actually encourage.
- We have new mid-term enrollees: athlete Cody Blanc, running back Alden Hill, tight end Justin Meredith, quarterback Nathan Peterman (raise your hand if you just had a flashback to Seinfeld), junior defensive lineman Darrington Sentimore, defensive lineman Trent Taylor, and defensive back Tino Thomas (Memphis). Woo for DLs.
- Josh Richardson's parents told him that "nothing good comes from message boards." Discuss.
And this edition of Quickie Talking Points comes to you via Win 7 Antispyware/Antimalware Malware. Take it, it's good for you!
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Get used to it, folks.
When Dooley saw his shadow at last week’s press conference, we all knew that meant 6 more weeks without a defensive coordinator.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Buddy Green bio
http://www.navysports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/green_buddy00.html
He head coached at UTC a while back.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
so Buddy Green has evidently had some good seasons before, but. . .
1. Been at Navy how long and hasn’t gotten a better offer?
2. Gave up 56 points this year to Notre Dame and 63 to Southern Miss
3. Let ECU break Tee Martin’s record
Do. Not. Want. Unless the rumors that we’re actually interviewing him as a position coach are true.
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 12, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions
Kevin Steele's not looking so bad now, is he?
2. Gave up 56 points this year to Notre Dame and 63 to Southern Miss
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Yes, yes he is.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
What if Dooley is interviewing Green for that very purpose?
To make Steele look like a better candidate?
I am joking. (Hopefully.)
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Kevin Steele's resume is in another stratosphere from Buddy Green.
Kevin Steele had a sub-par year this year at Clemson after losing 6 starters overall, 4 of which were NFL level(3 all ACC 1st teamers, and Bowers being a top 2 player overall per almost all reputable mock drafts before his knee injury was discovered). The year before his defense was 13th in 2010, and in the top 25 in 2009. He was also voted a top 10 recruiter of the last decade. I’d take Steele ALL DAY over Green.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Take him then
FSU could use him if he’s that talented.
Buddy Green’s resume doesn’t make Steele look good.
Buddy Green may be a terrible coach for all I know, but he didn’t give up 70 after a month to prepare and then say they had no way to counter the speed of ONE player.
Buddy Green’s defense may have been mediocre at best but at least he can fall back on trying to recruit to a service academy instead of somewhere as nice as Clemson.
For the record, most of us who were at Chattanooga when Green was the coach think he is a royal ass so he’s far from my pick but doesn’t make Steele look like a winner by any means.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
The WVU game was an anomaly imo.
Everybody saw Clemson mail it in after the turnover. Nobody thinks WVU is 40 points better than Clemson and most would take Clemson if they played again to win(almost everybody had Clemson pregame). There is no comparison between Green and Steele as far as who is more qualified. Steele isnt my first pick, but a solid DC and elite recruiter none the less.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Never said Steele wasn't more qualified
Just said Buddy Green doesn’t make him look better as a candidate.
Clemson seems to agree since they just canned him.
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
At the very least, Kevin Steele sounds more like a DC's name than Buddy Green.
;-)
by David Hooper on Jan 12, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Buddy Green reminds me of Buddy Ryan and Mean Joe Greene.
I’d hire him on his name alone.
(Not really, though).
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I would too
and I am NOT a fan of Kevin Steele
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 12, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Position coach?
Fetal position? (sorry, had to)
by David Hooper on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
He has virtually no experience recruiting high level talent right?
He falls into the “unknown” category on the recruiting trail you and I talked about. No bueno. I dont understand unless its officially desperation time.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
It's been 11 days since Wilcox quit.
Signing Day is in three weeks. At what point does desperation time become “official”?
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Very true. It is officially desperation time, but a DC hire shouldnt be more of a long-term thing than a quick hire to save a class.
With that said, UT could do much better than Buddy Green. I mean I think they can? Cant they? Damn I dont know anymore. Maybe they cant right now.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Welcome to Tennessee.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
The state bird is the Headless Chicken.
by David Hooper on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That
is fantastic.
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by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Tommy Spangler
IMHO Spangler would be a much better hire than Green. Additionally he would be my choice over Steele simply because his defenses improved every year. No offense to Steele but losing a couple guys to injury should not make that much difference. And this has been my stance on everything including Dooley, by year three with three full recruiting classes on campuses you should not be able to use injuries as an excuse for a poor performance or poor season. Subpar yes I will agree when the starter goes out you lose a little but it should not be that much. I think Spangler would be the better candidate. No way he would turn down a 500,000 contract and a chance at an SEC School. The guy is a GA Grad and played in the SEC.
losing a couple of guys to injury shouldn't make a difference?
Vols should know better than most that losing a couple of guys can make a biiiiiig difference
Its understandable
In year 1 or 2 of a new coaching staff, with the depleted roster we had yes I am willing to make exceptions however as I have stated numerous times on this site next year Dooley gets no such pass, I don’t care if Bray and Hunter go down again and we have a couple injuries on Defense no excuse for another poor performance. Worley has experience and another year in the program same with other receivers and Defenders. At this point as I have stated a subpar performance yes, because starters will almost always be better but we should have enough talent by now that it is not poor and the season isnt poor!!
And Steele has been at Clemson
For over 3 years now so injuries really aren’t an excuse for a poor performance!
His first 2 years at Clemson were very good.
He lost 6 starters on defense before 2011, 4 of which were NFL caliber and 1 of those 4 was widely touted as a top 3 overall player nationally. Any DC would expect some kind of drop off after losing all that. Maybe their defense shouldve been better than it was, but definitely not as good as last year’s.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Avast! Free and Malwarebytes for me.
They seem to get the job done.
Can I have a Defensive Coordinator now, please?
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions
Josh's parents are right to tell him that.
He should also avoid the comments section in the news stories. Probably doesn’t even need to read really good blogs like this. I imagine the temptation is there — we all want to know what others think of us. He would just need to have a really good “idiot filter”.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Green...
…has run a 2-4-5 defense at Navy for the past decade….didn’t even know such a thing existed. Obviously knew about 4-3, 3-4, 4-4, 3-3-5, and 4-2-5, but never had I heard of a base alignment involving only 2 down linemen. Don’t know about how effective that could be in this league….seems like power running teams (like Bama) would be absolutely licking their chops at the opportunity to face such an alignment. Maybe that’s why Navy sometimes gives up a million points in a game.
Of course, just because he’s run that at Navy doesn’t mean that’s what he’d do at UT, but it’s something to consider. And maybe he’s not even a serious candidate for the DC job….maybe he’d be the LB coach instead. We’ll see, but I would say this hire for DC would be highly underwhelming and would reek of desperation.
2-4-5?
That sounds like it’d be good in lateral coverage, but could get rolled by power-running teams just due to a lack of bulk. Although those 2 would have to be beefy DTs, I’d think.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 12, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
First and foremost, Navy builds to compete against USAFA and Army.
That lateral motion would be nice to have against an option team and probably makes it easier to cover both the QB and pitch man on option sweeps. But at a service academy, winning the CINC trophy is the most important thing. Period.
by David Hooper on Jan 12, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
It's not as weird as it sounds
Occasionally people are even trying a 1-5-5. Both are basically a 3-4 with a tackle replaced by another (big) LB. Sorta the logical progression of zone blitzing- gives you the freedom to move LBs around at will, plugging gaps or dropping into hook or flats coverage, and preventing the QB and particularly the OL from having much an idea what you’re doing. There’s no reason it can’t be excellent against the run- you’re still keeping 7 or 8 guys in the box, they just have ever-changing gap assignments. You’re seeing similar ideas more often in the pros these days- the steelers run this sort of thing pretty often.
/saintsfan
///gregwilliamsisalunatic
I was going to point that out.
Call it what you will, but it’s all kind of just different takes on the 3-4.
Also, it’s Gregg with 2 gs. ;)
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 12, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I loved him when he was with the Titans.
Word is, he might follow Fisher wherever he catches on this offseason.
But yeah, the guy is nuts. He even ran some 46 bear looks in the early Titan days.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 12, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Statistically he's not too awful...
..but lordy, is it maddening to watch. We either tackle for a loss or give up 15 yards every play. I swear sometimes the thought is just to either force a fumble or give up the score as quickly as possible, to get Brees and company back on the field.
I seriously doubt he'd try a 2-4-5 at a major school.
At least, not as the base of the defensive playbook. That’s the kind of thing you do at places like the academies, where you end up limited on the numbers (and quality) of linemen you can get in. Like the discussion about Sunseri earlier, Green would have to know enough about more conventional defenses to be able to run them, or he wouldn’t even make it past the introduction in the interview process.
People had the same knock about Calhoun when his name came up for the head coaching gig because he ran the option at Air Force, but they forgot that he had spent almost all his pre-USAFA career as a pro-style guy. Coaches don’t specialize in only one scheme anymore. They may have their favorites, but they won’t survive as coordinators if they can only do one thing. There is no such thing as a “3-4 guy” in that sense; just a guy who likes to recruit toward a 3-4 and run it when he can.
(Not an implicit endorsement of Green. Just an observation.)
by David Hooper on Jan 12, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I agree.
It’s not like there’s this quantum difference between DEs and OLBs. A 2-4-5 is really not much different from a 3-3-5, which people are more accepting of. I like to think of it as a 3-3-5 with a bit more pre-snap flexibility at cost of a bit of interior leverage.
by David Hooper on Jan 12, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
You can't rely on System Restore...
to get rid of those fake antivirus programs either.
I had a certain relative get it on their computer, and actually believed it’s messages due to their incredible lack of computer experience… I was actually a bit amazed. Needless to say this just made a total mess of things and the poor guy had ~25 viruses all going at the same time.
It required a manual cleaning… I suggested simply doing a clean install of Windows, but he offered me a hefty sum to fix it… apparently he didn’t want to lose his e-books. I attempted to point out that he could just download them again, but stopped trying after I got that confused look that everyone who has tried to fix a grandparent’s electronics has seen before.
Anyhoo… I ended up literally going through every single plausible line of the registry, consistently cross referenced the active processes, and was forced to restart about 50 times. And if you made a single mistake and one of the fake antivirus programs started up, you would be back to square one.
I personally keep LavaSoft Ad-Aware on 24/7 along with Malwarebytes. And I NEVER use Internet Explorer. Using IE is ASKING FOR IT. It’s basically browsing the internet with your File Manager(actually, it literally is). Seriously, use FireFox with pop-up blockers, AdBlock, and flash disabled.
Back in my firefox days
I ran no-script (along with pop up blocker and adblock). It blocked flash and basically all other scripts that you didn’t explicitly allow to run. Loved it.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Don't bother asking him about that trick to put too many men on the field to stop the clock.
They changed that rule.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
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