Tennessee Volunteers Pick Alabama Assistant Sal Sunseri For New Defensive Coordinator
by Brad Shepard on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM EST
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PrintSal Sunseri certainly wasn't the biggest name floating around the rumor mill for the Tennessee Volunteers' vacant defensive coordinator position. But after speaking to several candidates, UT coach Derek Dooley hand-picked the national champion Alabama Crimson Tide's outside linebackers and associate head coach to replace Justin Wilcox in Knoxville.
GVX247's Wes Rucker -- who broke the news this morning -- suggested Sunseri was Dooley's top choice all along ... through the Randy Shannon rumors, the flirtation with Kevin Steele, discussions with Phil Bennett and interview with Buddy Green.
If so, Dooley got his man -- for better or worse.
Sunseri interviewed in Knoxville on Wednesday and left with an offer to come to Knoxville. Though there has been no confirmation, reports suggest the package UT offered Sunseri was for three years between $700-800K. He went back to Tuscaloosa to mull it over with family and to discuss the situation with Tide coach Nick Saban, who reportedly made a run at keeping him. Sunseri's decision wasn't just about money, however. His son Vinnie was a freshman defensive back for UA this year and is in line for major playing time with Alabama over the next three years.
In the end, though, Sunseri decided to take the money and run, leaving UA for a better title and another step closer to realizing his dream of being a college football head coach.
Though he doesn't have a ton of experience as a defensive coordinator [two seasons at Alabama A&M in 1998-99], Sunseri is known for his development of players. If the Vols don't win next year, there is also the very realistic possibility that the coaching staff could be in jeopardy, so A) It gives Dooley somebody with which he's comfortable to ride-or-die and B) It gives the Vols a coach who has a track record of recruiting star players to help re-stock the cupboard.
Sunseri was hired by Saban to be associate head coach and outside linebackers coach in 2009 after coaching the Carolina Panthers defensive line. He was an All-American linebacker at Pittsburgh. He is known for the development of players, and Indianapolis Colts defensive end Robert Mathis credits his development as a pass rusher to Sunseri, who was Mathis' defensive coordinator at Alabama A&M. Mike Rucker and Julius Peppers also rave about him, and Sunseri developed Alabama's Courtney Upshaw into a star this season. He was a finalist for the Broyles Award, which is given to the nation's top assistant coach. Here is his Alabama bio.
In addition to his development of players and the fact that he comes from perhaps the best defense to ever play college football in this year's national champion Tide, Sunseri is known as a tremendous recruiter. He has ranked in Rivals top 25 recruiters in each of the past two years.
He was UA's lead recruiter on five-star defensive tackle Eddie Goldman, and UA leads for him currently. In 2011, he secured commitments from four-star linebacker Trey DePriest, who played a lot for UA as a freshman, four-star defensive end Quinton Dial, four-star defensive back Chris Jones, three-star offensive lineman Ryan Kelly, five-star offensive tackle Cyrus Kouandjio, four-star defensive end Jeoffrey Pagan and his son, Vinnie Sunseri. He was named 247 Sports national recruiter of the year last season.
For the 2010 class, Sunseri recruited and secured commitments from four-star defensive end Alfy Hill, four-star offensive lineman Arie Kouandjio, three-star defensive end Wilson Love and four-star quarterback Phillip Sims.
Saban made a strong push to keep Sunseri, but the Vols came through with the money and the title. According to Bama Online, UT's defensive line coach Lance Thompson -- who makes $400K at UT -- is a candidate to replace him. Hopefully, this will help the Vols hang onto wavering commitment Dalton Santos as well as secure commitments from big defensive tackles Daniel McCullers and Koren Kirven. Regardless, Sunseri appears to be a well-respected, quality hire according to people in the business, and it's always good to take from your rivals ...
Personally, I love the hire, and I really think the Vols have upgraded their coaching staff and recruiting prowess in the past couple of days. Though he isn't as experienced as some of the rumored candidates, Sunseri is well-respected and has a track record of developmental success.
He replaces Justin Wilcox, who left along with linebackers coach Peter Sirmon last Monday to head back to the Pacific Northwest and join Steve Sarkisian's staff at Washington. Dooley replaced offensive line coach Harry Hiestand with former North Carolina coach Sam Pittman yesterday, and Jay Graham came to UT from South Carolina after the season. The Vols are still on the market for a special teams/tight ends coach and another defensive assistant. I would speculate Sunseri will be instrumental in the hire of the defensive assistant.
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Love this hire.
Bring me recruits!
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
Recruits are coming bllaaarggghhwaaarrrggglllleeee
______________________________________________
Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
Good news is UT got a DC.
Better news is that FSU who was 50/50 for Goldman is now 60/40. Thanks Sal!
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Bryce Brown, David Oku.........
and Janzen Jackson. Recruits don’t mean anything if the don’t want to stay and play. I’m just saying, is all.
GBO!!!
first the AD, then the D line coach, now your DC
as long as you know your role UT, as Bama’s leftovers, you’ll be just fine
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions
you have it backwards
Alabama is the proving ground to see who deserves to coach at Tennessee
(also, you actually have the order wrong. We hired Lance Thompson three years ago)
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
so how many titles until Saban gets a call from Knoxville?
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
We'll take him next year ... or right now ... or whenever ... if you guys are willing to give him up
Also, FWIW, Izzy Gould tweeting that Vinnie is staying at UA. No surprise there.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
by Brad Shepard on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
haters hating, etc.
I’ll just post a ton of gifs here later if you’re still around. Have a nice day!
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
yes yes, give me your gifs!
that’ll show me!
meanwhile…national champs, aaand 5 in a row probably gon’ be 6 next year
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
Pretty sure we already got 6, boss. Assuming, of course, we are talking about the SEC and national championships.
I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.
Though I now realize
You’re talking about beating us and I’d rather not discuss that any further. So…carry on.
I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.
Show you?
Who said I was trying to show you anything?
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
You asked for it...
"We've got weapons, we've still got weapons... That's terrible, I apologize."
- Bruce Pearl
Hope you don't mind.......
but I saved this gif on my facebook and used it as my profile pic. lol
GBO!!!
If we wanted him, we would have him.
The money is here…….proven by the fact that he couldn’t afford to pay Sunseri what he wanted to stay, when we paid him more than what he wanted to leave. Get your facts straight, dude.
GBO!!!
dude...
when your coach is a former assistant to Saban, then of course he’s going to hire people he’s worked with before or got recommendations from folks he’s worked with before.
Its got absolutely zero to do with “ALABAMA” and everything to do with “SABAN”. If he’d never left for the Dolphins, instead of a Bama fan doing the trolling here we’d have an LSU fan doing the same thing.
Also, might want to lay off the 10AM drinking… good way to kill what’s left of your liver, and transitively your last half dozen or so brain cells.
man, I have had two already, but I'm not the only one that needs to cut back
(i started way before 10)
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Nice aviators.
Tell Maverick and Goose we said “hey”.
Also, when Saban and Chizik have to give back those rings in about a decade because of some motivated muckraker who has decided to put some teeth to all those scandal rumors…we’ll talk then.
"Request permission for troll-by"
“Permission denied”
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
(The internet: explained in three easy lines.)
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
How dare you impugn Saban's good name with Chizik's, sir.
One of those reached long-forgotten heights thanks to a fantastic JUCO transfer who transcended the game. The other can’t reach heights without a stepstool.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
This wasn't leftovers. We stole food off the Tide's table
Saban fought to keep him, so I can’t see where you’d say “leftovers.”
Also, I’m well-connected enough down here in Alabama, ya know, where I live, to know that there were plenty of folks unhappy that Dave Hart left for Knoxville because UA wanted him to be the AD today. But Mal Moore hadn’t retired.
We’re down, so we can’t talk trash. Congratulations on your national championship.
But the petty drivel in your post smacks of bitterness. We both know it’s inaccurate.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
If Tennessee's coaches are all Alabama leftovers...
Then how does one explain Lance Thompson being in the running to go to Alabama?
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously though...
Alabama has had soooooooo many former UT guys as coordinators.
Specifically, UT grad Ken Donahue was the DC for literally every Bryant championship team… and UT’s 1951 championship team. You want a screwup? How about promoting Harvey Robinson to replace Neyland and running off Donahue.
cancel that...
im confusing my stories. Donahue was a player in ’51.
The part about him being Bryant’s DC is truth though.
Seriously, though.
Give Lance Thompson a raise, buy him a car, I’ll take him out for a nice steak dinner. Whatever it takes. I don’t want to lose ANOTHER coach.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Agree. He's also in play for South Carolina
But he’s not happy for being passed over twice for DC nods. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
by Brad Shepard on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I give him one year tops.
And that only if somebody doesn’t offer him a DC slot in the next week or so. Which is kinda possible as it’s getting late in the game and slots are getting scarce.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I can't blame him.
I figured after the whole “we hired Randy Shannon!” thing blew over, and it seemed we were having trouble making a hire, that an internal promotion of Thompson was getting more and more likely.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
The New DC
Time will tell just how effective he will be. Although I think we will wish we had done more to keep Wilcox!
I suggested a partial frontal lobotomy...
but noooooooooooo… some UT administrators thought it was going “too far”. Whatever that’s supposed to mean.
“Too far” is a concept for halfassed ACC football programs. It has no place in the SEC>
by Caban on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Coach Sal is nobody's leftovers
He’s done well for us, and we wish him well. Of course we wanted to keep him…he’s a good recruiter, has helped us land another magnificent class, and he has us in the lead to land DT Eddie Goldman from Washington, DC. Are we weeping and gnashing teeth at his departure. Uh, no, not at all. But he’s good…y’all have nothing to be ashamed of in hiring him. Now, believing the Randy Shannon talk? Yeah, that’s a different story…should probably be a little ashamed of that.
As a general rule, our commenters are not the callers-in on local radio.
I’m not sure what you thought we believed, per se, but I really don’t see anything for people of this site to be ashamed of.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Puns?
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Austin Ward reporting
that Sunseri will install the 3-4 at Tennessee, to the shock of no one
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions
Oh. Well then.
This is gonna be awkward.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Given our personnel and the ones potentially coming I think it can work well
Jacques Smith could potentially be a great SS OLB. I think he was going to struggle to get to the size needed to be a force at DE
We have a handful of smallish DT’s that would make excellent jumbo 3-4 DEs. Corey Smith, Saulsberry, Walls, Hood, etc.
McCullers would be the NT we need
Move AJ inside with Santos and Harris and Maggitt to WS OLB. Jordan Williams would also make a killer 3-4 OLB.
I think this roster could do it but a whole new system would be tough to excel in next year. Look at UGA/Grantham as an example. Would be a gamble for Dooley.
agree on all counts
we’ve been building the roster towards the 3-4, but it’s tough to expect immediate success. which we kinda need
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Hooker tweeted this morning
That Koren Kirven is all Vol.
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
And then there is this!
4* DT Daniel McCullers has committed to the Tennessee #Vols over Alabama! 6’6 380 pound monster! Welcome to Big Orange Country! #VFL
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
See Bama fan guy...
This is what happens when you troll.
by Caban on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
REC'D
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
y'all have been good sports today
i’ll leave y’all alone now…it’s fun being on top
i’m sure these recruits means UT is back next year
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 13, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, that's fine.
What good is winning a championship if you can’t wave it around from time to time? So long as everybody understands that it’s all in fun, it’s just a part of being a fan.
(ya troll ;-)
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
keep in mind that Sentimore was an EE and was expected to get significant time if he stayed at Bama
6’3, 275. 3-4 DE, anyone? Sentimore on one side, Couch on the other?
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
2012 class
JUCO from Georgia Military
originally from Raleigh, NC
Rivals unrated, offer list =
Alabama, UT, Mississippi State.
And Hooker clarifies
in the blog post he was apparently trolling for that Kirven will just be visiting this weekend.
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
LEMME TELL YA WHAT YOU JUST CAN'T TRUST THOSE MESSAGE BOARD GUYS
THEY HAVE NO SOURCES AND THEY’RE JUST SITTING IN THEIR BASEMENT SPINNING UP RUMORS.
/GVX’d
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I can't remember if you're in K'ville so forgive me if you've heard this
but SA has been absolutely obsessive about the whole “message boarders don’t have reliable sources / just trying to gin up controversy for web hits / can’t trust anonymous usernames” thing for weeks. It’s getting really old, especially when the internet success rate is about the same as theirs.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Nashville ATM...
but the older newspaper folks are terrified that they will be made obsolete by open source news reporting. This is almost entirely due to a failure of understanding the younger folks.
People have been predicting the death of traditional news for at least 15 years now, and it obvious hasn’t happened and won’t. The end game of all this is the legitimization and co-opting of open-source news by the big players.
and...
A LOT of reporters are as bad, and in many cases worse, than your typical major blogger when it comes to sourcing. It amazes me when I hear anyone attempt to favorably compare newspaper sourcing to web sourcing.
look at how many people broke DC news before RTT did
not that Basilio really counts
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
The big problem for them...
is the fact that there are a lot of fans out there with better sources than the journalists. Sure, there are some idiots who make wild claims… but I’d rather get my info from a handful of folks on the message boards than just about anyone at the KNS.
I generally try not to get into this too much since I'm kinda sorta on one side of the fence
but as a rule, there are good eggs and bad eggs in both nests. (And I’m a completely unsourced fan who doesn’t even try to pretend that I know any better than anybody else.)
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think the hard part for journalists to swallow is that anybody can do it.
Going to journalism school is not as important as simply writing, following the news, finding contacts, etc. But they hardly have secret knowledge. They’re just in a position to practice full-time, which means they should be better at it than they otherwise would be.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I went to journo school...
and that’s 100% accurate. All a degree really does is get a foot in the door, but it’s like the art or computer world.
Ultimately it’s all about that portfolio if you want to actually get paying work.
I will say...
that a good professor can make a huge difference in the writing skills of a journalism student, but it’s nothing you couldn’t learn with practice and a copy of the AP Guidebook.
It's all about building the right relationships
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
by Brad Shepard on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's the big one.
Journo school can show you how to approach people and give some help in identifying good sources. And this could go on for a while, but I’ll just say that I have nothing against journalism schools. It’s just that highly public knowledge has made that (along with many, many other majors) much easier to access and learn on the side. Heck, even my stuff is out there for the curious.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
that’s true too, both in employment and developing sources.
The personable journalists typically end up being the ones breaking the news(see Wes Rucker).
Who was Griff's professor?
I actually don’t much stock in the teaching of writing. My 1L legal writing professor — an adjunct — actually made my writing worse. I couldn’t write a sentence without wondering whether it sucked.
I believe onne gets better at writing by writing. That is, unless one just simply sucks at writing. If one simply sucks at writing, then they will likely always suck at writing and should strongly consider choosing a career that doesn’t emphasize it.
I’m talking to you, Griff.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Jan 14, 2012 4:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To an extent, I think so.
This is a meta-discussion for another time, but I find that my writing improves the more of other people’s works I read, as well. Other people put words together in such a combination that I wouldn’t think of. That, coupled with writing more often, has done it for me. (And i can notice it, too, which is weird.)
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 14, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Piling on:
Kinda like kid said, I don’t think writing can improve unless you actually write. But that doesn’t imply that more writing becomes better writing, obviously. Teaching can help, as can reading other people, but those tend to be marginal unless they’re coupled with writing. (Conversely, just writing a lot tends to be marginal unless it has external focus.)
And improvement is a variable definition. People who work in assembly line writing industries like journalism tend to improve for speed more so than creativity and quality. Same with lawyers, and even engineers. (Tech writing is really nothing more than a stylistic crutch. Also a discussion for another time.)
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Technical writing
Yeah, technical writing is a completely different world from “normal” writing. I’m a terrible writer in general, but I can churn out a lab report with the best of them.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I've always said that you learn writing by reading good writing
I’m convinced that a lot of academics are bad writers because they only read other academic work and develop a stiff and overly-complex style
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 14, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Academic does not equal good writing. Spencer Hall is a far better writer than almost all the profs I have had. (Hint: if the profs could write well, they often wouldn’t be profs.)
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
"People have been predicting the death of traditional news for at least 15 years now, and it obvious hasn’t happened and won’t."
Tell that to the folks at the Baltimore Examiner. Or the Rocky Mountain News. Or the LA times. Or really any newsroom which has either shut down or is existing on a skeleton staff- which would be the overwhelming majority. The money for the kind of long-form, serious investigative work that newspapers used to hang their hat on just doesn’t exist, and the white-knight defenders-of-the-republic attitude that was both the best and worst quirk of newspaper folk is becoming a sad joke. The older news people are terrified for a reason- the world they built their life around doesn’t exist anymore.
RMN
was sold by Scripps while still having a circulation of nearly 1/3 of the population of Denver proper, and the Baltimore Examiner was a free paper.
I’m not saying it hasn’t hurt, but most of the papers that just got destroyed by online content really failed to adapt… in a lot of cases becoming downright hostile to change. There is no reason whatsoever that a newspaper with a circulation of 200,000 like the RMN should have to close… short of some real mismanagement.
For reference...
the KNS has less than half the circulation of the Rocky Mountain News, and is actually hiring new writers and expanding with new services such as 247 Sports.
I suspect Scripps had other reasons for getting rid of RMN.
eh...
honestly, I don’t want to argue over this. It’s not a subject I really like to talk about. You are right that it’s done some serious damage, but I think it’s been waaaaaay overblown. But it’s a subject that makes me uncomfortable as I’ve seen some really nasty arguments over it before.
Fair enough...
… and I hear you. It’s a very touchy subject, and for good reason. Not much better way to annihilate a party than bring all this dreck up.
TOPIC CHANGE:
Anybody else want to panic about the 3-4?
My brother is a journalist
Has been since he graduated college. Worked at a small paper in Manassas, VA out of college. Then a paper either in or outside of Atlanta (obviously not the AJC, or I’d remember that). Then the Orlando Sentinel. Then the Charlotte Observer, where he remains today. Each job change has been a promotion. He’s basically been working his way up the journalism ladder. If it were 30 years ago, his next step would probably be to try and get some variety of sub-editor position at the Washington Post (he went to school in Northern VA, and he has always always said that the Post is the best newspaper in the country). As it stands, his next step is to remain employed. He has survived several downsizings at the Observer, but is still all but convinced that it is just a matter of time.
I don’t know journalist titles, but he is the guy that lays out the paper. Not the whole thing, of course, but one section. He has also writes on the side for additional income. Or at least he used to write on the side for extra cash. When he was at the Sentinel, he wrote a regular column and was paid for writing that column. Now he writes the fantasy football column for the paper’s online site, but he does it for free. This would be a lot worse if he didn’t absolutely LOVE fantasy football, but it still illustrates that, at present, the greenbacks do not floweth freely in the print media business.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Jan 14, 2012 4:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And oddly enough, AOL and Yahoo have had some of the best economic success.
I don’t know about the last year or so, but before that they were on a multi-year run of hiring up journalists away from other companies and rapidly growing, even with some old media tendencies in their delivery. Basically, they did everything old media did, added some new media techniques for improved delivery and availability, and stripped away all the useless expenses of old media (such as owning high-cost office space in downtown NYC).
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
It's good to be a Sports Animal host.
Those will be the last ones fired, since keeping them acts as window dressing to hide the downsizing.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but look at the staffs
I mean- have you read the LA Times recently? It’s a joke.
Newsrooms are 30% smaller than they were in 2000. Looks at this chart of major-paper circulation over the last 30 years. Not good.
Scripps has been running on empty for some time- from everything I understand the RMN sale was about lopping off one rotten limb to keep the rotten body breathing for a bit longer. KNS may have hired a few new writers, but I’m pretty certain they’re employing a lot fewer than they were 15 years ago. And we’re a looooong way off from having any idea whether the 247/paywall stuff is at all sustainable.
Lance Thompson?
How worried should I be that he may leave?
@smreid09 on the twitters
Nobody has any idea at the moment.
Speculation is going both ways.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Speculation was going both ways on Wilcox, too.
Doesn’t mean much to me. Who would we be looking at if he leaves?…….. Steele?
GBO!!!
Looks like a screen-cap from "The Blind Side"
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
practice shot here
The other guy is an offensive lineman practicing technique, this is not a live drill.
lol!
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
We'll just put him out there in an orange mawashi.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
The fingers you have used to dial are too fat. To obtain a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Simpsons?
I recognize it but can’t place it.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Press TAB to continue.
Oooh! I’d like a tab.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
and I've found highlights
http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1071832.html
I’ve seen the rivals highlights, and the guy basically shuts down the middle of the line. It looks like a pileup on I-75.
"Though he isn't as experienced as some of the rumored candidates, Sunseri is well-respected and has a track record of developmental success."
Just because he can develop talent, doesn’t mean he can coach a defense. I’m happy because he doesn’t work for the competition anymore, and am more than willing to give the man a chance. I’m just not convinced of his ability yet. Not until he proves it to me, anyway. I’m tired of being excited of new hires and recruits, only to be let down by their inability and/or lack of desire. "Show me, Bama!!!!!’ in my best Denzel Washington voice.
GBO!!!
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