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Georgia 57 Tennessee 53 (OT) - Defense Only Does So Much

If you didn't see the game tonight, you might be confused about a couple of things. Yes, that final does include overtime; the regulation number was a Kevin O'Neill-esque 46-46. And yes, Tennessee played good defense: Georgia shot 35.5% from the floor, 2 of 18 from the arc, and turned the ball over 18 times. Those numbers combined with 46 points should be good enough to beat anybody.

But as good as the Vols were on the defensive end yet again, they were just as bad offensively. Just as you should always win when you hold a team to those numbers, you should never win when you yourselves shoot 2 of 16 from the arc, 7 of 14 at the free throw line, and turn the ball over a whopping 20 times. Five assists to twenty turnovers is embarrassing.

So we met in the middle and played overtime. And in overtime, Georgia was two possessions better, and in this game two possessions was a lifetime. The Dawgs got 16 points from Gerald Robinson, and win their first SEC game of the year.

Tennessee falls to 8-10, 1-3 in the SEC, but this one hurts. The Vols were feeling good after routing Florida and playing close with Mississippi State and Kentucky. We were close again tonight, and I suspect we will be every night at this point, but these are the games the Vols have to win to get where they want to go, and to build any kind of consistent momentum.

The Vols were strong inside again tonight: Jeronne Maymon had 12 points and 8 rebounds, and Jarnell Stokes added 11 and 7 in, remember, his second game ever. But here's an issue: Maymon had eight shots, Stokes nine. Trae Golden was strong at times tonight and led the Vols with 16 points, but he took 17 shots and had only one assist. Golden can be good, but now that we can put both Stokes and Maymon out there, he's not our best offensive option. Cameron Tatum also took nine shots. Those shot attempts have to start tilting toward the post players.

And hey, we're all depressed and maybe this game really isn't any more complicated than that the Vols shot 12.5% from the arc and aren't good enough to beat anybody when they do that. We'll find out; hopefully it's the last time we shoot such an atrocious percentage.

As needed to be the case before this game and is still the case now, this team needs to ignore all postseason (NCAA and NIT) conversation and just play the next game. Because it gets no easier: defending National Champion UConn comes to Knoxville on Saturday. I applaud the defensive effort tonight. But this team has to be sharper on offense, and I think really needs to feed the post more and more, or even our best defensive effort won't be enough to push us over the top against anybody.

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I think it was mostly shooting

how many wide open 3 point shots, open 2 point shots, etc, were missed? I’d say probably at least 3 out of every 4 misses were wide open.

That type of shooting isn’t going to beat even a D2 team.

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

I've been harping on this to the point that y'all are probably sick of it

and I’m sorry. but here’s the reason:

I’ve been hanging out on Canes Country a lot since I moved to North Carolina. The Canes have been in last place in the Eastern Conference for most of the year and are lightyears out of a playoff spot. But in mid-November, they beat the Penguins 5-3 and everybody starts saying “wow, we keep playing like that, we get ourselves back in contention, we could be one of the top four teams in the league, it’s gonna be great.” The Hurricanes proceed to go 2-10 in their next twelve games, firing their coach late in that stretch. Then they beat defending Western Conference champion Vancouver Canucks at home 4-3 (I was at that game. It was fantastic). And people start talking about how they’ve turned the corner and are ready to start competing with the league’s elite. They subsequently lose seven of their next eleven. Then they beat the reigning Stanley Cup champions this Saturday (Carolina is actually 3-0 against Boston—the only conference team with a record of .500 or better against the Bruins) and the talk begins again. Since then, they’ve lost two straight.

It’s like clockwork. Bad teams will play well against good teams and then have a game (or stretch of games) where it looks like they throw all their progress away. That doesn’t mean the team isn’t progressing. Carolina was 3-12 between the Pittsburgh win and the Vancouver win. They were 5-7 between the Vancouver win and the Boston win. That’s progress. But it happens in fits and starts. And at every peak, the fans all start expecting a smooth curve of improvement. And the improvement curve is never smooth.

I will be very surprised if Tennessee doesn’t knock off one of the upper echelon in the SEC this season (again). But I’ll also be very surprised if we don’t lose to another team that’s pretty bad. We will be good at basketball, and I think we’ll be good soon (perhaps next year). But in the interim, we’re going to have games like this

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Wait
It’s like clockwork. Bad teams will play well against good teams and then have a game (or stretch of games) where it looks like they throw all their progress away. That doesn’t mean the team isn’t progressing. Carolina was 3-12 between the Pittsburgh win and the Vancouver win. They were 5-7 between the Vancouver win and the Boston win. That’s progress. But it happens in fits and starts. And at every peak, the fans all start expecting a smooth curve of improvement. And the improvement curve is never smooth.

I will be very surprised if Tennessee doesn’t knock off one of the upper echelon in the SEC this season (again). But I’ll also be very surprised if we don’t lose to another team that’s pretty bad. We will be good at basketball, and I think we’ll be good soon (perhaps next year). But in the interim, we’re going to have games like this

Are we talking about basketball or football? :)

by danmarcel on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

although the football team had enough injuries to not even show the fits and starts level of improvement. well, not after the first two games

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ole Miss is going to beat Mississippi State

It’s possible that Kentucky will go 16-0, South Carolina 0-16, and the rest of us just go 8-8

by Will Shelton on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

the two Mississippi schools have had crazy home/road splits so far

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Long time listener, first time caller

Am I the only one that continues to wonder why Skylar gets so many minutes? I mean he is obviously a hard worker and you can’t knock the guy for that and as far as i know, he probably lights it up in practice, and while he has shot better this year compared to the past, he stills struggles and doesnt shoot it as well as a “3 point specialist” should, not to mention, he still isnt very quick and hurts us on defense. This was especially apparent tonight when he killed us numerous times in the clutch. Considering he only hit that one three, which seemed to be huge at the time, he missed the rest of his shots, and when he doesnt make his shots, he is almost nothing more than a defensive liability. i almost like our chance with richardson playing those minutes with maybe mcrae splitting some of those too. Am i just frustrated at the moment, or is there any validity in what I am saying?

by gouda3 on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

Richardson is already starting ahead of him

and McRae, while athletic, is just as bad on defense. And therein lies the problem.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Richardson did start

but still he only played 17 minutes to Skylar’s 29. 20/20 hindsight but richardson could have been helpful down the stretch even tho when they did sub him, they blew right by him like they were doing skylar.

Eat. Bray. Love.

by gouda3 on Jan 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, I wasn't able to watch most of the game, so I didn't realize the minute distribution

over the past few games, Richardson has played significantly more minutes. Against Florida, Skylar only played 2.

My guess is that Skylar gets more minutes when the team is shooting poorly, because he’s the most likely to provide a spark.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 18, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Bear with me here...

McBee reminds me of Tebow in a way: his fans are willing to ignore 85-90% of what he does because of some well-known late-game heroics. Others (his detractors and some impartial observers) wonder why nobody else is noticing the emperor is walking down Main Street naked.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jan 19, 2012 8:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

except that McBee isn't consistently heroic in the last game

also, he doesn’t play the vast majority of the minutes just for some late game heroics. Except last night for some reason

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 19, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Welcome!

Skylar is shooting 43.0% from the arc this season – for comparison, Chris Lofton shot 42.2% for his entire career (feels like more based on sheer volume, of course). So I’ve got no problem with him being on the floor and what he does in the offense. He was really bad defensively tonight, which is strange because he was so good against Kentucky.

I think McRae is most likely to lose minutes the more Stokes plays, with Woolridge going to the three.

by Will Shelton on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

On the balance

Skylar has been much better defensively this year, but that’s a theme with this team – Swipa, Hall, Richardson are all better on D I think. Not surprising given CCM’s philosophy.

by danmarcel on Jan 19, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

not to mention

counzo was a pretty prolific 3 point shooter back in his day from what i understand and maybe has a little biased towards those who can shoot….and i wasnt aware skylar was shooting that well this year…guess last night just put a bad taste in my mouth

Eat. Bray. Love.

by gouda3 on Jan 19, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

he went 2/5 if you count the one knocked out by Maymon's illegal screen

;-)

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 19, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha.

He hit a bunch in warm-ups too, so he was really shooting more like 50%.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jan 19, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely put a bad taste in all of our mouths

UT has 4 of the Top 18 three point shooters in the conference – McBee (.430, 9th), Tatum (.394, 14th), Golden (.373, 17th), and McRae (.371, 18th). Vols shoot 36.9% as a team, which is still a decent 76th nationally (out of 344) and third best in the SEC. That’s why last night was so surprising, I think.

by Will Shelton on Jan 19, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

the problem is that McBee is our only consistently good shooter

he may have his off nights, but they’re more likely to be 0 of 3 or 1 of 4 than 1 of 9. And they’re also fewer and farther between. Apart from him, we have a whole lot of other guys who can get hot, but Tatum, Golden, and McRae will all go 5 of 7 one night and 0 of 6 the next. When you’re full of guys like that, you’re going to have games where they’re all cold at the same time.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 19, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

this one wasn’t hard to spot

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 19, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

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