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Tennessee Lady Vols vs. LSU Lady Tigers: 7 PM EST

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January 19, 2012
Knoxville, TN
7:00 PM EST

TV: CSS / ESPN3
Internet Audio: Lady Vols Network
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13-4 (4-1 SEC)
NR (AP)
NR (USA Today)
RPI: 23

13-4 (4-1 SEC)
#9 (AP)
#9 (USA Today)
RPI: 1



Tonight is another Teacher/Student match in the SEC, with Pat Summitt facing Nikki Caldwell at LSU for the first time. LSU/Tennessee was the best SEC rivalry during the first decade of the 2000s, but has slipped as of late due to the decline of LSU under Van Chancellor. In this first match, Caldwell is dealt a bit of a short hand as the talent on the team is not where it once was (more on that in a bit). In the meantime, the trollgaze lands squarely on Lady Tigers fans we at Tennessee (okay, just Chris and me, but still) see this as Caldwell's first time coaching in her eventual destination as the heir apparent to the Summitt throne.

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Position Name Experience Height PPG RPG APG
lady vols logo G Meighan Simmons So 5-10 10.4 2.5 1.7
P Glory Johnson Sr 6-2 14.5 9.8 1.1
PG Ariel Massengale Fr 5-7 8.2 2.6 5.4
G-F Shekinna Stricklen Sr 6-2 15.5 6.4 1.9
F Alicia Manning Sr 6-1 4.8 4.8 1.7
LSU Logo F LaSondra Barrett Sr 6-2 12.5 6.6 2.5
G Adrienne Webb Jr 5-9 8.4 4.0 1.2
F Courtney Jones Sr 6-2 8.1 5.2 1.2
G Destini Hughes Sr 5-10 7.4 2.8 2.7
G Jeanne Kenney So 5-8 5.1 2.5 3.2

(Note: at time of writing, Stricklen's status was uncertain. She is likely not playing, but her replacement in the starting lineup is unknown.)

LSU is a bizarre team to understand and are best understood by first knowing where they came from. After the Pokey Chatman scandal forced her resignation in early 2007, Van Chancellor went to LSU to coach in the 2007-2008 season. Riding off the immense talent that Chatman had brought in, he went undefeated in SEC play and went to LSU's fourth consecutive Final Four. But after that year, LSU lost seven seniors (!!), including Sylvia Fowles, they never recovered. Their 30-win seasons became 20 win seasons and their Final Fours fell to 2nd round loss, and then eventually missing the tournament entirely. Nikki inherited a team that had been largely recruited with hopes of continuing LSU's success, but beaten down with the reality of a coach who was ready to retire. And so the rebuilding began.

Caldwell decided to rebuild the defense first, and LSU's defense is stout. Their opponents have averaged 47.5 points per game (and 48.4 in conference). LSU also averages over 40 rebounds, 5 blocks and 10 steals per game, with much of the defensive production coming from the bench (especially young trees Krystal Forthan, Taylor Turnbow, and Shanece McKinney). Playing LSU is an exercise in frustration on an entirely different level from Kentucky; where the Wildcats prefer to keep you from getting the ball across halfcourt, LSU adds a smothering halfcourt to their press.

The offense has not been as sharp as the defense, and LSU averages 64.6 points per game. But here's where the oddities in the stats begin to surface: they're one of the lowest-scoring teams in the SEC, but they have averaged a very good 44.7% from the field. It's indicative of a team that doesn't see a lot of possessions, partly due to taking a long time on offense and partly due to forcing opponents deep into the shotclock.

LSU does not shoot many threes and don't really have a dedicated three-point threat. Barrett is their most accurate shooter at 48.5%, but has taken just under 2 attempts per game. This game will not look like the Vanderbilt game, where the Commodores would dedicate up to 4 total players to free up Foggie for a shot. LSU wants the ball in the paint, and Tennessee will have to commit to denying the entry pass.

Prediction: 71 - 55 Tennessee. Fewer possessions but a couple breaks and a second half run to end it.

BassWatch™: 5 minutes left in the first. No more wonky lineups.

Chris: Nikki Caldwell would do well to learn from how the Tennessee lineup operates - or at least should operate. She's done a fantastic job turning LSU around (something we'd expect from a former and future Lady Vol), and once again the Lady Vols run into a former Summitt disciple who preaches and practices defense and rebounding. The difference? LSU doesn't have an answer to Vicki Baugh, let alone Glory Johnson. Given Stricklen's injury (and - no offense, Tigers - how much next Monday night matters), I'd be happy to let her sit out a game in favor of Baugh, who has a great tandem attack with Glory going at the moment. I'd be concerned where the other points are coming from - I'm reluctant to say Simmons, even though in theory this could be a great game for her to shoot daggers - but LSU's offense isn't anything to write home about. I'd be happy to see this game won on free throws; if Simmons would be so kind as to get to the line, maybe I'll back off her a bit. This won't be particularly pretty, but unlike another team I can easily think of, the Lady Vols can win ugly.

69-48 Tennessee. Bass doesn't see the floor until the 9 minute mark of the second half. Please?

Bonus prediction: one LSU post defender fouls out.

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Finally. Five quick points, Ladies up two.

This has been ugly, though. They miss Stricklen. Also, Glory’s only had two shots all game; Jones has been playing out of her mind.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

This doesn't look to good Chris

Wonder what the story is on Spani

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Severe bone bruise or something.

I’m a little disconcerted at this point. But the one source of offense – the Glory-Baugh combo – hasn’t been used at all this half.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Our highly praised trainers don't seem to work very fast

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a player without a non-ACL MCL injury out so long

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Glory drive blown layup

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

We Are Who We Think We Are?

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Glory with a blow-by awesome move? Sweet.

Misses the wide open layup. V O L S GO VOLS GO!

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

So there we go, Glory gone.

Looks like an Owie Shoulder, but not a Bad Owie.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Might be a Bad Owie.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I figure too.

With nothing else to figure.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So the good news is... We're Winning at half!

This is the extent of the good news.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

This is what I get for not watching the last 30 seconds.

So here is the good news: _____________

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not good.

I missed what happened, though. Broken ankle?

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

Fill me in?

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't totally know.

LSU player – Destiny Hughes – went up for a loose ball and landed horribly.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably broken.

I tuned in just in time to catch it. Ugly.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Looked to me like the right knee and ankle could be involved

the knee bent in towards the floor in an odd manner and the ankle
did likewise

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Could be either. Or both.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Announcers just called it a knee injury

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I rewatched it.

As she tried to pivot, Brianna Bass tripped over her foot. Basically, her right leg was bent with pretty much all her weight on it, and the ankle was torqued over, counter-clockwise. So whatever knee tendons that would strain were the ones that got hurt.

It was a pretty hard torque, too.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the type of separation/dislocation.

I don’t remember all the categories, but some are easier to handle and would just require a touch more tape.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

we can't afford that

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

So how do you guys think this coaching by committee thing is going?

if you would care to share your views

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

I ....well.

Tough to ask that question tonight (what are you going to do in a close game without your three best players?). But I think it’s been adequate enough.

Ask again later.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not referring to tonight - overall is the thing

maybe a fanpost thread would be better than trying to sneak it in here

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hoop and I have been talking.

I think there will be something up soon, so just lump it in there.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Baugh needs the ball more, I think.

Massengale and Simmons have 18 shots combined. The rest of the team has 19.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with that

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Glory checks in!

Admit it, you just released a breath you didn’t know you were holding.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

LSU takes a 39-37 lead with 13:00 left.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

and Baugh scoring when she's got it in close

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Glory's shoulder is hurting.

Had to be a separation/dislocation thingy. Whichever is the better of the two.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Yup.

Knowing Glory, I’m kinda surprised she didn’t have it done on the sideline.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

She's holding it down and playing with one arm

a two armed Izzy might be the better option

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, hello Cierra.

I didn’t see you there, lurking on the bench and being a legitimate scoring option.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Well, that for sure.

But it’s all relative. I went from “the Mayans were right” kinda bad feeling to “maybe reason to hope” kinda bad.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wonder if anyone keeps stats on how many TO's are taken by team

I would bet Tennessee leaves more TO’s unused than any SEC opponent

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

she did better on the receiving end but missed the open chippie

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

the pass or the shot?

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The pass.

Someone should’ve separated to the corner there, actually. I don’t put that entirely on Simmons.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

See? That was smart.

It’s there. It’s in her head. She knows, and yet.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 19, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Destini Hughes, the injured girl

is still fourth in minutes for LSU this game.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

She has to be there on missed shots

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Use a TO Pat - you can't take them with you

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

You need the

sarcasm font maybe?

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Miko been in at all?

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

So she's good to go but the coaches prefer Bass

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, for later

but I’m guessing they want one of Simmons or Massengale on the floor at all times, and that’s their way of ensuring they don’t get stuck with Williams and Bass while the others need a rest.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess.

But they were doing this even with Stricklen around.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Finally a Simmonsish shot from LSU

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

I don't mind them jacking threes.

They’re not really built for that. They’ll start rushing those shots in a bit.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that sucked for LSU.

Barrett with an apparent (incidental) elbow in the nose, but UT took long enough with the ball that she was back up, so LSU had to call the timeout rather than get the free stoppage due to injury .

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Simmons is actually better at 6 for 16 than I thought

ESPN box score

Ariel at 1 fo 10 is worse

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Glory doing her flying routine with that leap

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

now LSU is down 2 of their starters like TN

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Burdick Breadsticks?

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

I think so.

Especially for the surprise. Baugh had a beast game on the boards, though. And Simmons actually had a pretty good game, but …yeah, Burdick.

Or Stricklen, who indirectly was the MVP tonight.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And now we're in free throws.

Man, Nikki Caldwell is gonna look good in orange.

Again.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Amen

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill James declares it over.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. LSU conceding when most teams keep fouling.

Smart understanding of the clock by UT’s next head coach.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Breadsticks?

Burdick? Tough between her, Simmons, and Baugh.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

Definitely Burdick for my vote

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. the D was good all game.

I’m shocked that a game involving Caldwell and CPS came down to defense and rebounding.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

now you've got it

I just learned that this week

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine Stricklen will be back for Notre Dame.

Glory will be fine. But still, that’s an on-the-road game I’m not looking forward to.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

I predict a fail at ND

sorry to say

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd agree.

No reason to believe otherwise.

If Spani’s back, you might be able to talk me into it though.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 19, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

Have to give props to ND. They’re a seriously good team.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

G'nite guys - thanks for the conversation

i will look for that coaching committee post

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by aurabass on Jan 19, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Re: defense:

I’ve been struggling. I wear a size 13 1/2 shoe and these things don’t move as fast as I want them to sometimes.

Heh.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

Vandy's getting steamrolled by Arkansas.

57-35 with 8 1/2 to go. I could have seen Arky winning, but I didn’t see that coming.

by David Hooper on Jan 19, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

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