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One Last Chance: Tennessee Lady Vols @ Notre Dame, 7 PM EST


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January 23, 2012
South Bend, IN
7:00 PM EST

TV: ESPN2 / ESPN3
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14-4 (5-1 SEC)
#9 (AP)
#9 (USA Today)
#2 RPI

19-1 (7-0 Big East)
#2 (AP)
#2 (USA Today)
#5 RPI

For a team with such a high RPI, the Lady Vols still lack that key, tournament-resume-defining victory. TBA is a fortress, sure, but tournament bones are made on the road. So far, it's the road games that have troubled this team, with three of the four losses coming away from Knoxville. Sure, two of those losses were to top-10 teams (let's not talk about Virginia), but teams that play into April win road games against good opposition. The good news for Tennessee? Notre Dame on the road is just about as good as it's going to get. If there's going to be a big road win this season, now's the time. Win in South Bend, the Final Four and beyond is a real goal. Lose, and Denver stops being a realistic outcome and turns into a hope.

Non-conference games in January don't get much bigger than this. Lineups and breakdowns are below the fold, as always.

Star-divide

Position Name Experience Height PPG RPG APG
lady vols logo G Meighan Simmons So 5-10 10.8 2.6 1.8
P Glory Johnson Sr 6-2 14.3 9.6 1.1
PG Ariel Massengale Fr 5-7 8.2 2.6 5.3
G-F Shekinna Stricklen Sr 6-2 15.5 6.4 1.9
F Alicia Manning Sr 6-1 4.8 4.8 1.7
Notre Dame Logo G Natalie Novosel Sr 5-11 16.0 3.7 2.1
G Skylar Diggins Jr 5-9 16.1 2.9 5.9
G Kayla McBride So 5-11 11.7 4.5 1.9
F Devereaux Peters Sr 6-2 11.6 7.3 1.8
G Brittany Mallory Sr 5-10 5.8 2.6 2.3

So the whole Tennessee has trouble guarding good guards thing ...well, this isn't good, is it? Skylar Diggins is as good as they come, and the shocking part with this kind of guard rotation is how they don't make their bones from beyond the arc. It's not that Diggins or Novosel can't hit threes (Novosel in particular is in Lofton territory, at 43.5% on the year), it's that they get to the line. A lot. Novosel and Diggins shoot nearly 11 FTs a game combined, with 5 other players over or around 2.5 FTs per game. (By comparison, Glory Johnson shoots 6.5 FTs / game, and then it's a long way down from there to Vicki Baugh at 3.4, Stricklen at 2.9, and Simmons at 2.7. Everyone else is below 2.) That means preventing guard penetration is the order of the day, but at South Bend you can't hope the refs will call the game loose. Adjust accordingly, and avoid fouling

Notre Dame presses, they score (only three games below 75 points on the year), they force turnovers, and Ariel Massengale won't be the best point guard on the court. This is like Kentucky on steroids. Now what? Oh, and lest you think Notre Dame is prone to foul trouble themselves, they go 11 deep. Good luck.

Tennessee will have one critical advantage: rebounding. Well, they have two: height and Glory Johnson. Johnson is one of the few post defenders who might be better off the post, where she can use her length and athleticism in space. (And now this turns into a football preview.) The problem is asking her to do that and soak up the defensive glass, which is why I can easily see Vicki Baugh getting some extended minutes. Deny ball penetration, don't allow second chance opportunities. Simple, right?

The bigger issue affecting the Lady Vols is health, though. Stricklen should be ready to go (and if not, I suspect you'd have to tie her down to keep her off the court anyway in a game like this), and for Tennessee to have any chance, she needs to be the best player on the court when she's on the court. It doesn't count if it's only for 5-7 minutes, which we saw during the Vanderbilt game; that's not going to cut it, not tonight. It needs to be painfully obvious where she is and what she's doing. It's up to Massengale to use Stricklen properly (and then use Glory, Baugh, or Simmons when the defense shades Stricklen), and it's up to the rest of the offense to convert. Glory just needs to do Glory things; she will be the most athletic post on the court, so no sense not using that to every advantage. I'd love a 20-15 from her, but if she's getting that, the odds something else went wrong are pretty high.

That being said, you know who it may come down to? Taber Spani, of all people. She's been out injured for what feels like far too long, but rumors persist she'll play. Even as a spot-up three-point shooter, she's the best option the Lady Vols have from downtown. (Yes, Meighan, I see you. Take a second to compose yourself, then put it up, and we'll talk. None of this 20 shots to score 23 business; do it in 15 shots.) 10 points might be too much to ask for, but she's more dangerous than the minutes she'd be replacing - right now Brianna Bass is getting those minutes, which is a sign something's gone way wrong.

It'll be tough, but there's a way to win in South Bend. This team is capable of it....

Prediction: 78-69 Notre Dame. ...and yet, I don't see it. The will isn't there yet, and time's running out. Prove me wrong. Please.

No BassWatch; not to put too fine a point on it, but I want a DNP-CD here.

Hooper's Thoughts: I'll keep it short because Chris has pretty well hit everything. It should be noted, though, that Notre Dame is a team that might be peaking. Coming off a win over UConn and an absolute disassembly of Pittsburgh, Notre Dame is firing on all cylinder. That might be useful in March if they burn out, but it's not good news for today. Meanwhile, Tennessee is still growing, thanks in part to injuries holding back the team development. Again, good news for March but not today.

In addendum to Chris's info, I'd like to see Tennessee value their near-transition possessions more. When the fast breaks are there, they should by all means exploit. But if a fast break doesn't quite happen, Tennessee tends to force the issue instead of settling into the halfcourt offense. Five-second possessions with wild off-balance shots and subsequent defensive rebounds kill any momentum and force a team to stay on defense longer than is comfortable. If the fast break isn't there (Meighan), pull it up (Meighan), distribute the ball (Meighan), and find the right looks (Meighan). Layups clanking off the bottom of the rim shouldn't happen: those are turnovers, not shots.

Prediction: 74 - 65 Notre Dame. The Irish deserve to be favorites on their home court this year.

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Not a bad start.

A few bunnies missed, but at least they’re getting the looks.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

Not too bad

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

Speedy being too speedy

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

ND really moving the ball inside with crisp passes

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yes good description

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn those 3 balls are in and out

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Good Grief

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

6 shots on that last possession

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking a little gassed

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Still 20%ish on shooting.

And most of it has been off good looks. That’s absolutely killing Tennessee right now.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

18 to 11 rebounds 8 to 1 offensive but didn't hit the shots

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Taber sighting

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

See, this is why three-point shooting matters.

Notre Dame is just dumping bodies inside. Someone’s gotta hit something.

(Put your hand down, Meighan.)

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Everybody wants to shoot chippies inside

but our % isn’t any better in there with the blocks, over the backboard, and misses

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Shooting 28% from 3 would give us more points

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

still can't hit a shot

But at least they’re missing with enthusiasm.

by danmarcel on Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

So here's the thing:

both teams are going to shoot better in the second half.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

and here's the other thing

UT is in an 8 point deficit

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 23, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

If this is double digits at the half, this is over.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on Glory

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Even Burdick has caught the missed chippie bug

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Nice punch Glory

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

pow!

Right in the kisser.

by danmarcel on Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

18 point half with 12 missed chippies?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

How is that a foul? Ariel gets to stand there doesn't she?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

haven't you seen the fouls already called?

obviously, she’s not allowed to play any defense

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 23, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess not

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No halftime adjustments coming

we will do the same thing in this half
jam it inside and miss

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing is, two made threes and that works.

Perimeter D is collapsing hard anytime the ball goes inside because there’s absolutely no outside shot (only 2 threes attempted?); show that shot and it may work.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

We took 2 3 point shots that entire half

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't feel it either.

Especially if they don’t get off to a good start. The worst part is there’s really not much that can be done. If you’re not shooting well, you’re not shooting well.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

______________________________________________
Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But Strick and Simmons can hit them too

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Even Burdick

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Just don't see this coach staff looking for it

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Her two shots from the foul line were way off

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Is she normally good at creating her own shot?

One of them was a “I want to shoot this, so I will” drive that was just bad as soon as she started.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That's an idea

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Do they have set plays for a 3 point shooter?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Where did that team go?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody got a jet?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

they liked the weather

and didn’t want to leave

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 23, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is "up here"?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

DC metro area.

Works well most of the time. Doesn’t work well when I make not-obvious tongue-in-cheek statements making fun of Caps fans and people take me seriously.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking like Stanford Two - ugh

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

three straight inside easy layups for ND

After a wide open 3

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

and

can’t draw a foul, either

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 23, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking like the Stanford game

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

lots of nice passes inside to Glory

with strange misses

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes and no.

Tennessee shot 49% against Stanford.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

she came to play but she left her shot at home

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh wait - we have a 3 point shooter $tricklen

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

another head scratching coaching move

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, not really.

If Massengale’s back in, at least. Although Massengale has made a couple dumb moves lately.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry but Bass is not an option

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's it Bass must be the answer

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Well, at this point, there's really no sense in beating them up any more over it.

This team is so frustrated at themselves that they’re making things worse. I don’t know how you’d calm them down, really.

The better their opponent is, the tighter they play. It’d be nice to see this team relax a bit in games like this.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Last year's ND game was a coaching disaster IMHO

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Burdick is an option

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Yup - better to have her missing 3's and letting Vicki clean them up

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No, the shots were fine. Those are in Stricklen's bag of tricks.

Just that she’d miss both of them when she would normally be gold.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

We are having more success from outside the arc

is all i’m sayin

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So we go from 3 guards to no guards

that’s different

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

So:

- does a healthy Spani change this game if there’s a rematch?
- does this game change if the Ladies hit shots early?
- can Massengale look to spot Stricklen instead of dumping to the key?

If the answers to those questions are yes, they might yet be okay. Otherwise, it’s Elite Eight or bust.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, yes, and yes.

There are a lot of factors that would explain a loss, but the blowout is simply explained by Tennessee getting inside their own heads. If they can get past their own mental block, they’ll be a contender.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Notre Dame is shooting 71% this half.

And a lot of those makes are shots that just shouldn’t go in. It’s literally everything that could go wrong.

And Irish Washerwoman is very annoying at that speed.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

The scheduling argument is actually a discussion worth having.

Tennessee’s SoS is so far above and beyond everybody else in the country right now, it’s just ridiculous. Not that it excuses this, Stanford, or Virginia, but in general, it would be good for this team to have a few more games to tune in and to rest some players.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, but we knew that about 3 top-ten teams ago.

I’m not at all suggesting going bunny. But getting an occasional week or two to tone it down would be good. Very few people can go Pat Summitt pace for a whole season.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Notre Dame was 68% from the field in the second half.

by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually not entirely trolling.

Aside from Kentucky (and LSU, so it would seem), there isn’t a team in the SEC that’s on the level of teams Tennessee needs to be capable of beating. Maybe only 2 top-5 teams next year, though. ;-)

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't stand very well

there is no answer from the brain trust when they get off to a bad start.
The coaches don’t take time outs to calm them down
Their only answer is always more rebounding and more defense
There are no halftime adjustments
The substitution patterns are puzzling
These are 9 HS All Americans and the staff hasn’t figured out how to maximize this talent?

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by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

There’s this weird first-year-coach thing going on here, too. A lot of that can be chalked up to not being used to – or ready to – handle the reins.

Some of it can be chalked up to Massengale’s ball distribution; I would like to note the teams that have been effective shutting Tennessee down have done so by denying interior passes.

by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand

this great brain trust of coaches on the bench and a player comes off frustrated and one of these coaches can’t sit down beside her and get into her head and give her some encouragement or advice?

We have the most experienced – winningest brain trust on the coaches bench in all of basketball
We have 9 McDonald’s All Americans
We have Glory playing her tail off but she can’t hit under the basket 3 of 12
We have Kinna who is an All American who shoots 2 for 10
We have Meighan who led the team in scoring last year and went 4 for 14
We have the new freshman sensation PG
We have Taber and Miko back
We have 5th year Senior Vicki who played well at 4 for 9

and we just got run out of the gym at ND by nearly 30 points after an 18 point first half
But the brain trust had no impact on the way the team played
They took few if any time outs to try to clam the team down and stop the rushed shots underneath
The team was out rebounding ND 18 to 11 at one point and had an 8 to 1 off reb advantage.
But they can’t seem to do whatever it takes to hit shots right under the rim
We shot better from 3 than we did from in close
but there is NEVER a set play to open up a 3 point shot and then open up the inside
There were no inside out scoring attempts

I don’t know how a staff this experienced can’t sit down on the bench with Glory, Meighan or Strick and talk them into calming down and playing their game.
I don’t know why they can’t see what is happening and at least offer some coaching advice on how to correct it.
I don’t know why they can’t take a time out after 6 straight missed shots under the rim and focus the players on a way to correct that rushed miss problem
I don’t know why they cannot say anything but Rebound or Defense
If that is all they can do with nine all Americans with some serious skills then why do they make millions?

Conzo Martin with one single HS senior who is rated as high as 9 of the Lady Vols can inspire his team to beat the dreaded XXXXXXX and take KY and MSU to the buzzer along with Duke and beat Florida but this staff with 9 potential Jarnell Stokes can’t seem to figure out how to get wins out of some combination

Instead they put in Brianna Bass? I love Bri but she simply does not belong in this ND game.
our 3 point % was higher than our FG percentage
our FT percentage was terrible
Glory is an incredible defensive player and rebounder but her offense has to be in her head and when it obviously isn’t the coaches have to notice and sit down with her and get her head straight – get her to slow down and focus

And no I haven’t coached a single game or won 1000’s but I can see when something isn’t working and this team gets itself into a state where it cannot compete – we can all see that happening and we are not paid big money to fix it. Somebody is being paid to fix it and there is no excuse for a team of this caliber to be a 29 point loser to anyone. I know that and you should too. But we leave the floor with lots of time outs left because the coaches have nothing they think they can offer to help? Why is that? There is no coaching to be done?

I don’t want to see Holly as head coach after Pat if this is what she’s got to offer
These are college kids who want to win but they have to be coached mentally to overcome these frustrating starts and get back into it by TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT when one thing isn’t working
That seems fundamental to me – if it ain’t working do something that will work.
Try shooting from beyond the arc when you aren’t hitting inside. Try anything
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result
The success you had in the past means very little when you’re getting beat in the present.
rant over – I won’t blame these girls – I want them to have success but they need some help.

Born in Fort Sanders - 1st Residence Aconda Court (Alumni Hall) - 1st games at Neyland 1947 - Mother = TORCHBEARER - Dad grad of UT & UT Law + professor BORN ORANGE and BLEED ORANGE .......

by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

4* WR and member of the Rivals250...

Quinshad Davis of Gaffney, SC has eliminated South Carolina… this leaves Wake Forest and Tennessee in the running. He visits UT this weekend, has already been to Wake.

by Caban on Jan 23, 2012 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

sounds like

he’ll sign at UT. More recent visit would put in some psychological bias, right?

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 23, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That's been the conventional wisdom at UT for a long time...

just get em in the door, and we’ve got a great chance.

Amazing the number of big time guys that visited on a lark while Fulmer was here that ended up committing.

by Caban on Jan 23, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

well to be fair

assuming the weather’s not bad, what isn’t there to love on campus?

And i’m sure they take the recruits to Neyland and have them stand in the middle of the field. That’d probably be enough to get almost anybody

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 23, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

/goes to play League of Legends with girlfriend at halftime

/checks back in to see if maybe something imp— nope.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Jan 23, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Is anyone else terrified...

that Dyshawn Mobley is going to be the next Randall Cobb?

3068 rushing yards in one season? The old record holder was Troy Fleming, and he had a pretty good career at UT.

by Caban on Jan 23, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

So .... I checked in to see who won the game and ...

Mother of Donkey Kong.

Did this actually happen? Notre Dame ate the whole wheel of cheese. I’m not even mad.

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

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