One Last Chance: Tennessee Lady Vols @ Notre Dame, 7 PM EST
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January 23, 2012
South Bend, IN 7:00 PM EST TV: ESPN2 / ESPN3 Internet Audio: Lady Vols Network Live Stats: GameTracker |
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14-4 (5-1 SEC) |
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19-1 (7-0 Big East) |
For a team with such a high RPI, the Lady Vols still lack that key, tournament-resume-defining victory. TBA is a fortress, sure, but tournament bones are made on the road. So far, it's the road games that have troubled this team, with three of the four losses coming away from Knoxville. Sure, two of those losses were to top-10 teams (let's not talk about Virginia), but teams that play into April win road games against good opposition. The good news for Tennessee? Notre Dame on the road is just about as good as it's going to get. If there's going to be a big road win this season, now's the time. Win in South Bend, the Final Four and beyond is a real goal. Lose, and Denver stops being a realistic outcome and turns into a hope.
Non-conference games in January don't get much bigger than this. Lineups and breakdowns are below the fold, as always.
| Position | Name | Experience | Height | PPG | RPG | APG | |
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G | Meighan Simmons | So | 5-10 | 10.8 | 2.6 | 1.8 |
| P | Glory Johnson | Sr | 6-2 | 14.3 | 9.6 | 1.1 | |
| PG | Ariel Massengale | Fr | 5-7 | 8.2 | 2.6 | 5.3 | |
| G-F | Shekinna Stricklen | Sr | 6-2 | 15.5 | 6.4 | 1.9 | |
| F | Alicia Manning | Sr | 6-1 | 4.8 | 4.8 | 1.7 | |
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G | Natalie Novosel | Sr | 5-11 | 16.0 | 3.7 | 2.1 |
| G | Skylar Diggins | Jr | 5-9 | 16.1 | 2.9 | 5.9 | |
| G | Kayla McBride | So | 5-11 | 11.7 | 4.5 | 1.9 | |
| F | Devereaux Peters | Sr | 6-2 | 11.6 | 7.3 | 1.8 | |
| G | Brittany Mallory | Sr | 5-10 | 5.8 | 2.6 | 2.3 |
So the whole Tennessee has trouble guarding good guards thing ...well, this isn't good, is it? Skylar Diggins is as good as they come, and the shocking part with this kind of guard rotation is how they don't make their bones from beyond the arc. It's not that Diggins or Novosel can't hit threes (Novosel in particular is in Lofton territory, at 43.5% on the year), it's that they get to the line. A lot. Novosel and Diggins shoot nearly 11 FTs a game combined, with 5 other players over or around 2.5 FTs per game. (By comparison, Glory Johnson shoots 6.5 FTs / game, and then it's a long way down from there to Vicki Baugh at 3.4, Stricklen at 2.9, and Simmons at 2.7. Everyone else is below 2.) That means preventing guard penetration is the order of the day, but at South Bend you can't hope the refs will call the game loose. Adjust accordingly, and avoid fouling
Notre Dame presses, they score (only three games below 75 points on the year), they force turnovers, and Ariel Massengale won't be the best point guard on the court. This is like Kentucky on steroids. Now what? Oh, and lest you think Notre Dame is prone to foul trouble themselves, they go 11 deep. Good luck.
Tennessee will have one critical advantage: rebounding. Well, they have two: height and Glory Johnson. Johnson is one of the few post defenders who might be better off the post, where she can use her length and athleticism in space. (And now this turns into a football preview.) The problem is asking her to do that and soak up the defensive glass, which is why I can easily see Vicki Baugh getting some extended minutes. Deny ball penetration, don't allow second chance opportunities. Simple, right?
The bigger issue affecting the Lady Vols is health, though. Stricklen should be ready to go (and if not, I suspect you'd have to tie her down to keep her off the court anyway in a game like this), and for Tennessee to have any chance, she needs to be the best player on the court when she's on the court. It doesn't count if it's only for 5-7 minutes, which we saw during the Vanderbilt game; that's not going to cut it, not tonight. It needs to be painfully obvious where she is and what she's doing. It's up to Massengale to use Stricklen properly (and then use Glory, Baugh, or Simmons when the defense shades Stricklen), and it's up to the rest of the offense to convert. Glory just needs to do Glory things; she will be the most athletic post on the court, so no sense not using that to every advantage. I'd love a 20-15 from her, but if she's getting that, the odds something else went wrong are pretty high.
That being said, you know who it may come down to? Taber Spani, of all people. She's been out injured for what feels like far too long, but rumors persist she'll play. Even as a spot-up three-point shooter, she's the best option the Lady Vols have from downtown. (Yes, Meighan, I see you. Take a second to compose yourself, then put it up, and we'll talk. None of this 20 shots to score 23 business; do it in 15 shots.) 10 points might be too much to ask for, but she's more dangerous than the minutes she'd be replacing - right now Brianna Bass is getting those minutes, which is a sign something's gone way wrong.
It'll be tough, but there's a way to win in South Bend. This team is capable of it....
Prediction: 78-69 Notre Dame. ...and yet, I don't see it. The will isn't there yet, and time's running out. Prove me wrong. Please.
No BassWatch; not to put too fine a point on it, but I want a DNP-CD here.
Hooper's Thoughts: I'll keep it short because Chris has pretty well hit everything. It should be noted, though, that Notre Dame is a team that might be peaking. Coming off a win over UConn and an absolute disassembly of Pittsburgh, Notre Dame is firing on all cylinder. That might be useful in March if they burn out, but it's not good news for today. Meanwhile, Tennessee is still growing, thanks in part to injuries holding back the team development. Again, good news for March but not today.
In addendum to Chris's info, I'd like to see Tennessee value their near-transition possessions more. When the fast breaks are there, they should by all means exploit. But if a fast break doesn't quite happen, Tennessee tends to force the issue instead of settling into the halfcourt offense. Five-second possessions with wild off-balance shots and subsequent defensive rebounds kill any momentum and force a team to stay on defense longer than is comfortable. If the fast break isn't there (Meighan), pull it up (Meighan), distribute the ball (Meighan), and find the right looks (Meighan). Layups clanking off the bottom of the rim shouldn't happen: those are turnovers, not shots.
Prediction: 74 - 65 Notre Dame. The Irish deserve to be favorites on their home court this year.
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Speedy being too speedy
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I'm around, by the way.
Neither team feels settled yet.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
ND really moving the ball inside with crisp passes
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Yes good description
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Damn those 3 balls are in and out
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Good Grief
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6 shots on that last possession
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Looking a little gassed
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Well, the Ladies have found the way.
Now if they can start hitting shots, we’ll talk.
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Still 20%ish on shooting.
And most of it has been off good looks. That’s absolutely killing Tennessee right now.
18 to 11 rebounds 8 to 1 offensive but didn't hit the shots
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Yeah. I don't award much credit for the offensive boards
but they kept ’em in the game, at least.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Glory draws her ...3rd or 4th?
I know it’s at least 3rd.
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Taber sighting
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See, this is why three-point shooting matters.
Notre Dame is just dumping bodies inside. Someone’s gotta hit something.
(Put your hand down, Meighan.)
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Everybody wants to shoot chippies inside
but our % isn’t any better in there with the blocks, over the backboard, and misses
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they gave possession to notre dame?
how was that not a foul on ND?
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
Peters got both hands on the ball.
That was a legit block.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Open your eyes?
;-)
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Shooting 28% from 3 would give us more points
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LVs looked pretty sluggish for the first 12
Much better now.
by danmarcel on Jan 23, 2012 7:40 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
still can't hit a shot
But at least they’re missing with enthusiasm.
by danmarcel on Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So here's the thing:
both teams are going to shoot better in the second half.
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and here's the other thing
UT is in an 8 point deficit
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
Right.
If this is double digits at the half, this is over.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Glory
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Even Burdick has caught the missed chippie bug
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Second half fouls: Notre Dame 3, Tennessee 17?
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
based off this half
absolutely. and all of which against Glory
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Nice punch Glory
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18 point half with 12 missed chippies?
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How is that a foul? Ariel gets to stand there doesn't she?
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haven't you seen the fouls already called?
obviously, she’s not allowed to play any defense
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I guess not
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I don't see making up 10 points in a half.
Maybe if they actually use Spani?
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No halftime adjustments coming
we will do the same thing in this half
jam it inside and miss
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The funny thing is, two made threes and that works.
Perimeter D is collapsing hard anytime the ball goes inside because there’s absolutely no outside shot (only 2 threes attempted?); show that shot and it may work.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
We took 2 3 point shots that entire half
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Yeah, I don't feel it either.
Especially if they don’t get off to a good start. The worst part is there’s really not much that can be done. If you’re not shooting well, you’re not shooting well.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Who?
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
The only three-point specialist on the team.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
But Strick and Simmons can hit them too
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Even Burdick
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Just don't see this coach staff looking for it
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I don't think Spani would've gotten PT if they had ignored it entirely.
She was open a couple times but couldn’t get the ball.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Her two shots from the foul line were way off
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Is she normally good at creating her own shot?
One of them was a “I want to shoot this, so I will” drive that was just bad as soon as she started.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Right, that was what I thought.
I’d be fine running a few set plays for her.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
That's an idea
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Do they have set plays for a 3 point shooter?
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/thatsthejokesomewhereinthere
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
Where did that team go?
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They're still in Knoxville.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody got a jet?
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they liked the weather
and didn’t want to leave
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
It's been ugly up here. Can't blame 'em.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Where is "up here"?
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DC metro area.
Works well most of the time. Doesn’t work well when I make not-obvious tongue-in-cheek statements making fun of Caps fans and people take me seriously.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Looking like Stanford Two - ugh
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three straight inside easy layups for ND
After a wide open 3
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and
can’t draw a foul, either
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Looking like the Stanford game
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lots of nice passes inside to Glory
with strange misses
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Yes and no.
Tennessee shot 49% against Stanford.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
GUYS STOP TALKING ABOUT SIMMONS
IT’S GETTING ALL OVER THE CARPET
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Glory's drawn her ...6th?
She’s come to play, at least.
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she came to play but she left her shot at home
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She didn't want her shot to be lonely in South Bend.
That place is a wasteland this time of year.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh wait - we have a 3 point shooter $tricklen
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Killing time to the under-12.
Hopefully that was just an extended breather.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
another head scratching coaching move
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Nah, not really.
If Massengale’s back in, at least. Although Massengale has made a couple dumb moves lately.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
sorry but Bass is not an option
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That's it Bass must be the answer
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Well, at this point, there's really no sense in beating them up any more over it.
This team is so frustrated at themselves that they’re making things worse. I don’t know how you’d calm them down, really.
The better their opponent is, the tighter they play. It’d be nice to see this team relax a bit in games like this.
Notre Dame does that to them.
Happened last year, too.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Last year's ND game was a coaching disaster IMHO
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I'm starting to be happy that they'll graduate three starting seniors.
Even if we are too.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Burdick is an option
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Yup - better to have her missing 3's and letting Vicki clean them up
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No, the shots were fine. Those are in Stricklen's bag of tricks.
Just that she’d miss both of them when she would normally be gold.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
We are having more success from outside the arc
is all i’m sayin
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So we go from 3 guards to no guards
that’s different
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So:
- does a healthy Spani change this game if there’s a rematch?
- does this game change if the Ladies hit shots early?
- can Massengale look to spot Stricklen instead of dumping to the key?
If the answers to those questions are yes, they might yet be okay. Otherwise, it’s Elite Eight or bust.
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Yes, yes, and yes.
There are a lot of factors that would explain a loss, but the blowout is simply explained by Tennessee getting inside their own heads. If they can get past their own mental block, they’ll be a contender.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I discard anything after around the 15:00 mark of the second half, FWIW.
They mentally shut down (which is inexcusable).
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Notre Dame is shooting 71% this half.
And a lot of those makes are shots that just shouldn’t go in. It’s literally everything that could go wrong.
And Irish Washerwoman is very annoying at that speed.
Yet one of the better shooting percentages.
But comparing these percentages is really not worth the effort.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Right.
It needs to not be quantity with her, it needs to be quality.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
This is just eons of repression coming out.
/drops another body from the sky
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
The scheduling argument is actually a discussion worth having.
Tennessee’s SoS is so far above and beyond everybody else in the country right now, it’s just ridiculous. Not that it excuses this, Stanford, or Virginia, but in general, it would be good for this team to have a few more games to tune in and to rest some players.
On the plus side, they know exactly where they stand.
That alone is why I don’t want it to change.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but we knew that about 3 top-ten teams ago.
I’m not at all suggesting going bunny. But getting an occasional week or two to tone it down would be good. Very few people can go Pat Summitt pace for a whole season.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
That's what conference play is for, right?
/trollgaze
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
Notre Dame was 68% from the field in the second half.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm actually not entirely trolling.
Aside from Kentucky (and LSU, so it would seem), there isn’t a team in the SEC that’s on the level of teams Tennessee needs to be capable of beating. Maybe only 2 top-5 teams next year, though. ;-)
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
They don't stand very well
there is no answer from the brain trust when they get off to a bad start.
The coaches don’t take time outs to calm them down
Their only answer is always more rebounding and more defense
There are no halftime adjustments
The substitution patterns are puzzling
These are 9 HS All Americans and the staff hasn’t figured out how to maximize this talent?
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Right.
There’s this weird first-year-coach thing going on here, too. A lot of that can be chalked up to not being used to – or ready to – handle the reins.
Some of it can be chalked up to Massengale’s ball distribution; I would like to note the teams that have been effective shutting Tennessee down have done so by denying interior passes.
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by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand
this great brain trust of coaches on the bench and a player comes off frustrated and one of these coaches can’t sit down beside her and get into her head and give her some encouragement or advice?
We have the most experienced – winningest brain trust on the coaches bench in all of basketball
We have 9 McDonald’s All Americans
We have Glory playing her tail off but she can’t hit under the basket 3 of 12
We have Kinna who is an All American who shoots 2 for 10
We have Meighan who led the team in scoring last year and went 4 for 14
We have the new freshman sensation PG
We have Taber and Miko back
We have 5th year Senior Vicki who played well at 4 for 9
and we just got run out of the gym at ND by nearly 30 points after an 18 point first half
But the brain trust had no impact on the way the team played
They took few if any time outs to try to clam the team down and stop the rushed shots underneath
The team was out rebounding ND 18 to 11 at one point and had an 8 to 1 off reb advantage.
But they can’t seem to do whatever it takes to hit shots right under the rim
We shot better from 3 than we did from in close
but there is NEVER a set play to open up a 3 point shot and then open up the inside
There were no inside out scoring attempts
I don’t know how a staff this experienced can’t sit down on the bench with Glory, Meighan or Strick and talk them into calming down and playing their game.
I don’t know why they can’t see what is happening and at least offer some coaching advice on how to correct it.
I don’t know why they can’t take a time out after 6 straight missed shots under the rim and focus the players on a way to correct that rushed miss problem
I don’t know why they cannot say anything but Rebound or Defense
If that is all they can do with nine all Americans with some serious skills then why do they make millions?
Conzo Martin with one single HS senior who is rated as high as 9 of the Lady Vols can inspire his team to beat the dreaded XXXXXXX and take KY and MSU to the buzzer along with Duke and beat Florida but this staff with 9 potential Jarnell Stokes can’t seem to figure out how to get wins out of some combination
Instead they put in Brianna Bass? I love Bri but she simply does not belong in this ND game.
our 3 point % was higher than our FG percentage
our FT percentage was terrible
Glory is an incredible defensive player and rebounder but her offense has to be in her head and when it obviously isn’t the coaches have to notice and sit down with her and get her head straight – get her to slow down and focus
And no I haven’t coached a single game or won 1000’s but I can see when something isn’t working and this team gets itself into a state where it cannot compete – we can all see that happening and we are not paid big money to fix it. Somebody is being paid to fix it and there is no excuse for a team of this caliber to be a 29 point loser to anyone. I know that and you should too. But we leave the floor with lots of time outs left because the coaches have nothing they think they can offer to help? Why is that? There is no coaching to be done?
I don’t want to see Holly as head coach after Pat if this is what she’s got to offer
These are college kids who want to win but they have to be coached mentally to overcome these frustrating starts and get back into it by TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT when one thing isn’t working
That seems fundamental to me – if it ain’t working do something that will work.
Try shooting from beyond the arc when you aren’t hitting inside. Try anything
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result
The success you had in the past means very little when you’re getting beat in the present.
rant over – I won’t blame these girls – I want them to have success but they need some help.
Born in Fort Sanders - 1st Residence Aconda Court (Alumni Hall) - 1st games at Neyland 1947 - Mother = TORCHBEARER - Dad grad of UT & UT Law + professor BORN ORANGE and BLEED ORANGE .......
I wonder how different this game would've gone had those two shots not tidy-bol'd out.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
It really did feel like the game was won/lost in the opening minutes.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think ND would've won (obviously at this point).
But it would’ve been closer. Say, a 9-point margin. ;-)
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
(but probably closer to 15, really - dragged out late)
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Jan 23, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, something like that.
Man, it’s tough to get a read on Tennessee. Sooooo much talent at all positions, and yet so much frustration.
by David Hooper on Jan 23, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
4* WR and member of the Rivals250...
Quinshad Davis of Gaffney, SC has eliminated South Carolina… this leaves Wake Forest and Tennessee in the running. He visits UT this weekend, has already been to Wake.
sounds like
he’ll sign at UT. More recent visit would put in some psychological bias, right?
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
That's been the conventional wisdom at UT for a long time...
just get em in the door, and we’ve got a great chance.
Amazing the number of big time guys that visited on a lark while Fulmer was here that ended up committing.
well to be fair
assuming the weather’s not bad, what isn’t there to love on campus?
And i’m sure they take the recruits to Neyland and have them stand in the middle of the field. That’d probably be enough to get almost anybody
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
doesn't look too bad
could be better, but at least it’s not snowing or pouring rain all weekend
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
/goes to play League of Legends with girlfriend at halftime
/checks back in to see if maybe something imp— nope.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
Is anyone else terrified...
that Dyshawn Mobley is going to be the next Randall Cobb?
3068 rushing yards in one season? The old record holder was Troy Fleming, and he had a pretty good career at UT.
So .... I checked in to see who won the game and ...
Mother of Donkey Kong.
Did this actually happen? Notre Dame ate the whole wheel of cheese. I’m not even mad.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

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