Recruiting Never Sleeps: A Look Ahead to Tennessee's 2013 Offensive Class Needs
The Tennessee Volunteers have finally caught up numbers-wise -- almost too caught up, actually.
By my count, UT has 70 scholarship players currently on its roster including the mid-term enrollees. Throw in the 14 committed high school players yet to arrive on campus, and that gets the Vols to 84. If Jacksonville (Fla.) inside linebacker Kenneth Bynum decides this week that he wants to join UT over Cincinnati, that would put the team right at the 85 scholarship player limit allowed by NCAA rule.
As of now, the Vols are in line to lose only 13 senior scholarship players after the 2012 season -- Marsalis Teague, Rod Wilks, Prentiss Waggner, Herman Lathers [likely, unless he gets another year from the NCAA], Ben Bartholomew, Nigel Mitchell-Thornton, Carson Anderson, Dallas Thomas, Darin Gooch, Mychal Rivera, Zach Rogers, Willie Bohannon and Steven Fowles. That would mean that -- unless some major attrition happens -- UT will only be able to sign 13 [or 14, if Bynum elects to head north] next year.
We all know that's not going to happen and the Vols will find a way to make more room, but still, we'd have to cull 12 players between now and next year's National Signing Day to get to the 25 max. That seems tough to imagine. There is the looming possibility that several Vols will test the NFL waters early, and while we hope that doesn't happen, it would clear recruiting spots for the next class.I do think the Vols will get close to that number, but 10 is probably the most room they will clear. So, we'll operate off Derek Dooley getting to 23 scholarships in time for the 2013 class.
For our exercise below, the information below can get a bit tricky unless you keep some things in mind. To note, a junior for the upcoming 2012 season will be referred to as a senior leading into the '13 class, and so on. We're going to list the players at each position the Vols will be returning, their class and also give a projection on who may look elsewhere for playing time.
NOTE:
- We will not base potential transfers on ANYTHING besides lack of playing time or NFL departures. So, you won't get anything like "If Player X gets homesick" ... or ... "If Player Y gets in trouble."
- UT's offensive line is full of players who can play guard or tackle, so we'll separate the centers from the exterior linemen, but all other OLs will be tossed in together.
- Some players will be listed twice.
- Finally, we're not factoring in redshirts, which will almost certainly occur.
As I said, this is far too early [but never too early if you love recruiting ...] so here is my subject-to-change breakdown of how I see numbers shaking out for next year's class. This is a completely unscientific look at the numbers, and I could be WAAAY off from what UT coaches envision currently. Still, think of it as an early-bird guide to get us thinking about what UT's needs will be entering this year's recruiting cycle. And, yes, I enjoy recruiting far too much.
QUARTERBACKS
Returning players: Sr. Tyler Bray, Jr. Justin Worley, So. Nathan Peterman
Possible defections/roster questions: While we all hope that Bray doesn't leave for the NFL, I think all of us would love to see him have the type of season where he'd at least have to consider it. There's always the possibility of the loser of the Worley/Peterman battle for the backup [which, in my opinion, will be Worley] will leave, but you have to think out of the three, only one at the most would go.
Recruiting targets: 1, barring anything unforeseen happening such as Bray bolting for the NFL AND one of the others transferring. The Vols always want to recruit at least one quarterback, but of course, if they lose a quarterback, you'd have to think UT would want to get two. I don't see Bray leaving at this moment, but I could see losing one of the three. For now, we'll say the Vols will target one signal-caller.
RUNNING BACKS
Returning players: Sr. Rajion Neal, Jr. Marlin Lane, Jr. Tom Smith, Jr. Devrin Young, Jr. Jaron Toney, So. Davante Bourque, So. Alden Hill, So. Quenshaun Watson.
Possible defections/roster questions: Neal is certainly a question mark here. He's a very intriguing player who is currently playing wide receiver but is listed on the roster as a running back. I'd love to see him get another shot at RB, and who knows what Lane is going to do this year? This is a big spring for Smith, who may be playing elsewhere if he can't crack the rotation. You also have to wonder if one of the three in UT's big RB class this year doesn't go elsewhere. Toney isn't a scholarship player, but he factored in the rotation last year. Then there's Hill, who could land at fullback due to numbers.
Recruiting targets: 2. The Vols love Bourque and think he can be an elite back ... but that's pretty much it on the roster. With a running backs coach in place, UT will search far and wide for an elite runner. Can they lure one if they throw the ball all over the field next year is another question? Still, I see UT wanting two backs.
FULLBACKS
Returning players: None. So, it's either Alden Hill or somebody not on scholarship. Walk-ons Jr. Austin Bolen, Jr. Austin Taylor and So. Ryeon Wedley.
Possible defections/roster questions: Will Hill end up at fullback? If not, the Vols have a question there. Can they rely on one of the three walk-on fullbacks -- who've actually all proven they can play on a high school level, at least. Will the Vols even play a fullback often in the future? There's also the question of whether Channing Fugate, who was moved to middle linebacker this week, will stick on defense or move back to fullback.
Recruiting targets: None. I have no idea what UT's future is at this position, especially with all the talent at receiver. Dooley may very well elect to not recruit a fullback and go with Hill or a walk-on in certain sets. I honestly don't think with all the needs on the board that UT will recruit one, and I think Hill or someone else fills that role going forward.
TIGHT ENDS
Returning players: Jr. Brendan Downs, Jr. Cameron Clear, So. Justin Meredith
Possible defections/roster questions: None.
Recruiting targets: 1. With the Vols always liking to get a tight end target, here is where I think the fullback scholarship is used. I just can't see UT -- in a small class -- taking a tight end AND a fullback. With two receiving tight ends on board, I think the Vols would like to go after a big, bruiser who is a premiere blocking tight end.
WIDE RECEIVERS
Returning players: Sr. Justin Hunter, Sr. Da'Rick Rogers, Sr. Cordarrelle Patterson, Sr. Raijon Neal, Sr. Naz Oliver, Jr. Vincent Dallas, So. Alton "Pig" Howard, So. Jason Croom, So. Drae Bowles
Possible defections/roster questions: OK, we all know that Hunter is most likely a goner. After his difficulties meshing with team chemistry this past season, Rogers could be, too. Out of the Big Three, I don't think it's a stretch to say the Vols can expect to have just one back for 2013, and anything better than that would be icing on the cake. Oliver probably isn't ever going to factor into the rotation, and Neal also could find his way back at running back, where he's a home-run threat waiting to happen if he can only hang onto the ball.
Recruiting targets: 2-3. If the Vols lose Hunter as well as Rogers and/or Patterson, you're looking at a team with just three remaining upperclassmen and three underclassmen. For our calculations, we're going to go with the Vols getting two targets this year, replacing the two we think they'll lose. If, of course, UT sees three it likes and can have, it wouldn't be surprising to see them take three receivers. But with limited room and other needs, I'll go with two.
CENTERS
Returning players: Sr. Alex Bullard, Jr. James Stone, So. Mack Crowder
Possible defections/roster questions: First off, you have to doubt the Vols will ever try the Stone Experiment at center again. So, now that that is out of the way, that leaves just one scholarship center on the team in 2014. So, I definitely see Tennessee going after a center in this year's class, and they've already targeted a couple.
Recruiting targets: 1. I cannot see the Vols needing more than two centers on their team, along with possibly another utility guy who takes some practice snaps in case the need arises.
GUARDS/TACKLES
Returning players: Sr. Alex Bullard, Sr. James Stone, So. Mack Crowder, Sr. Zach Fulton, Jr. Marcus Jackson, Sr. Ja'Wuan James, So. Kyler Kerbyson, Jr. Marques Pair, So. Alan Posey, Jr. Antonio "Tiny" Richardson, Sr. JerQuari Schofield.
Possible defections/roster questions: The two players here that I'd watch for to leave are Pair and Schofield unless either one of them makes a move for playing time in a hurry. Also, since UT didn't get a single offensive lineman in this year's class, I expect the 2013 class to feature several. There's also the possibility that Fulton or James will go pro, though both would have to have much better seasons than they did last year. Stone was down on himself after going from starter to out of the rotation last year, but he's talented and just needs to get back in the groove.
Recruiting targets: 3-4. Given the number of upperclassmen UT will have, I think the Vols will probably take at least three non-center offensive linemen in this class and potentially four, based on what they decide to do at a few other positions. The Vols already have a stud committed in Austin Sanders, so they've gotten off to a good start, and new offensive line coach Sam Pittman is known for his recruiting abilities. He already has offered a slew of elite linemen for the upcoming class.
KICKERS
Returning players: Sr. Michael Palardy, Jr. Matt Darr, So. George Bullock.
Possible defections/roster questions: None.
Recruiting targets: 1 or 0. OK, so I forgot about specialists. IF the Vols sign one, it would push my end number to 24, but I'm still putting this in here. I don't really think UT would go after a kicker unless it had an elite boot in its area -- and it does with Farragut's Jonathan King. So, I believe King will get an offer, and it'll be him or nobody in this upcoming class for the Vols.
That puts us at 10 (or 11, counting the kicker) offensive scholarships doled out in the 2013 class with the possibility that, if room permits, it could swell to as many as 12-13. We'll take a look at the defensive side of the ball Monday.
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Great write up.
I think the best opportunities to “trim some fat” as it were are probably running back, offensive line.
We’ve got, what, 14 linemen up there? Only 5 play at a time, obviously. Especially if we’re looking at recruiting a multiplicity of lineman, and some of the upper classmen look like they’re never going to pan out, that might be a position to make some room. Running back is kind of the same situation. By the time we’re looking at the 2013 class, I think we’ll have a better idea of which guys are going to contribute and which aren’t.
And if we have the monster offensive year we think we’re going to have, we could lose our QB and our top 3 WRs. That makes me sick just thinking about it. Hopefully the 3 guys we brought in this year will be ready to step up, if that happens. We will need them.
Truthfully, if we do lose the big 4 (CP included), and the offensive line grows into a dominant unit, and we find a running back we can trust, AND we continue to fill holes and add depth on defense, 2013-2014 could turn into more prototypical SEC years for the Vols—run the ball, game manager at QB, and great defense.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 10, 2012 9:26 AM EST reply actions
The vols shouldnt have any trouble transitioning from this WR corp
to the next with the talent they signed. Losing Bray eary(which I dont see happening) would be a big blow as adjusting to a new QB is always rocky for a year almost guaranteed and probably 2.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Not always...............
If you build your team right and don’t ask too much of your QB you can win the national title even when you transition to a new QB, Alabama won both of their most recent titles with a new starting QB, the difference is Worley will already have 2 years on campus and have been thru 3 spring trainings and summer workouts, I think that will make a difference and I don’t see him being unseated by Peterman who I see probably red-shirting this year and then backing up Peterman. But for Bray to leave early he would have to have a MONSTER season. Rogers and Hunter and Patterson would all need good years too!
That why I said "almost" guaranteed.
Sure if TN can recruit a top3 class year in and year while landing the nation’s top RB along with the #1 defense they could win a title with a new QB, but there isnt a good chance of that happening at all. Springs and summers are good, but nothing replaces starting QB game reps and pressure to perform which is why I think its safe to say there is normally a slight rebuild under a new QB. Bray will probably stay, but I dont see Rogers or Hunter staying at all. The NFL has no problem evaluating a good WR without a great statistical year. Hunter wont risk another injury unless hes getting paid and Rogers will jump at the chance also imo.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Feb 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve got, what, 14 linemen up there? Only 5 play at a time, obviously...
You’ve got to have the manpower to keep your O-line fresh if you’re going to try to do the things with with your running game that we’re obviously going to try to do with all the RBs we have and with Jay Graham on board. I’m not sure where we would trim some fat, but I’m certain that OL is NOT the place.
GBO!!!
Oh, I'm all for keeping backups around.
But how many of those guys are going to realistically see the field?
If you settle on 5 starters, you’ll have your main backup tackle, guard, and maybe center, so if the injury bug bites, 8. If we keep around a completely 2nd string O line (which is a great idea), that’s up to 10. I think 2 full lines and a reserve or two is a good idea. Having nearly 3 full lines means that some of those guys will never see the field.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 11, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
what would not surprise me
is something like taking 4-5 new freshmen while dropping 2-3 non-seniors (Pair? Schofield?). It’ll keep the numbers solid while balancing out the classes a tad.
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 11, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I was a little shocked that an elite RB didnt jump on board in 2012.
I dont think the passing game will effect the ability to lure an elite back. TN will be more versatile as soon as their run blocking and RB talent improve. I thought an elite RB would love to play in a system with a great passing game which makes it easier to run. I will be doubly shocked if a top 10-15 RB doesnt come to knoxville next year. As far as 2012 goes, it wouldnt be surprising to see Howard in the backfield in a few packages.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
I would also LOVE to see Pig at RB some
He can show out there.
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by Brad Shepard on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Continuing to be in the "whatever it's worth" category
the two 2013 NFL Mock Drafts at this site continue to love Bray – one has him going third overall, one ninth. This is the same site that had him going first overall (assuming Matt Barkley would already be gone) last summer. One of them also has Hunter going in the first round, and I’m sure the other doesn’t simply because of the injury.
I think Bray can go anywhere from #1 overall to the 3rd round, depending on a few things.
For one, I think he helps his case with a monster season, obviously. But aside from that, he has to keep these negative rumors about him from spreading, and he has to kill interviews.
If he comes off as not being a leader or not being a worker in interviews that will hurt his stock. If he does all that + rumors get out about him, he could end up seeing a Ryan Mallet type slide.
Barring anything crazy, though, I think he’s a first round QB.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 10, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
This and also this goes back to work ethic as he should already have those 20 lbs if he worked hard.
He has good height and a great arm, but he needs to improve mentally and vastly improve in maturity level to be a 1st rounder imo.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Feb 10, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt all three receivers will go
There would not likely be room for all three in the high rounds. I’d think at least one would stay back to be better positioned in the next draft. Plus it will be difficult for all three to have monster statistical seasons in the same year to attract the attention required. Wouldn’t break my heart to see Rogers go. Would love to see Hunter stay and provide outstanding Senior leadership and perhaps CP. Those two could cause all kinds of problems for teams in the second year of playing together.
no it didn't
refresh the page and you’ll see what actually posted. I have no idea what causes that bug, but I’ve seen it here and there for a couple months now
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
My point that didn't post was
All three declaring would create a log jam in the draft so would probably see one of the three stay on for a better chance at a higher position in the 2014 draft. Also probably not enough balls to go around next year for all three to have monster statistical seasons.
I actually expect Da'Rick Rogers to stick around...
particularly if Bray stays for his senior year.
Honestly, Hunter is beyond ready for the NFL right now… I’ll be very surprised if he sticks around. Also think Corradelle is one and done if he has a year that puts him legitimately in the top 4 rounds.
Disagree somewhat on Hunter
He made a ton of plays on pure athleticism, I think he has work to do to broaden his wide receiver skills. Agree though that next year should accomplish that and he’s good to go.
The NFL will draft guys high on their evaluation of potential
way over stats and have done so for forever. I’ve seen guys go in the 1st round after missing a whole season to injury. Stats carry little weight with pro scouts.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Feb 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Knee injuries are tricky
anecdotal evidence is that it takes two years to fully recover elite cutting ability/speed/etc. Much like the Titans and Kenny Britt, I think everyone needs to tone down the expectations for Hunter next year. He should help the offense immensely just by being out there as another pair of steady hands, but I think a monster season is less likely.
by CobbWebbAttack on Feb 10, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I do agree that 1 of 3 will stay and Hunter wont be the one staying.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Feb 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see Bray getting drafted in the first round at this point
Not next year, anyway. Even if he has a monster year.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
A lot of the pro teams are only carrying 1 FB
and running a lot more 2-TE sets. If the college game follows similar lines, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us use walk-ons at FB. Won’t see many guys like Shawn Bryceon anymore.
I think Bray would be better served to play his senior year to help develop the maturity and leadership qualities that NFL teams look for in a QB. I have a hard time seeing him taken really high in the draft until he becomes a true team leader. That said, he could decide anything – it will come down to the kind of year he has this fall. I hope either way he gets some good advice and listens to it, because he can have a very bright future ahead of him.
We have a lot of OL on the team, but it does worry me that we didn’t take any this year because those guys usually take a couple of years to develop and its important to always have some in the pipe line (so we don’t run into a situation like we had in 2010). Of course, I realize how important it was to focus on DL this year since we are so depleted there. Its not ideal, but the OL can probably handle it. Hopefully a few years from now we’ll be at a point where we can have a pipeline going.
Your FB point is a good one.
To that end, a lot of NFL teams aren’t even using a true FB anymore.
A lot of teams who need a full back only in spots will shift their blocking TE to the position and let him lead block. It’s a good way to keep that package in your playbook and on tape without having to waste a roster spot on an unimportant position.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Dooley has stated since he arrived
That he prefers the two tight end sets. I also prefer the two tight end sets. I think a big talented tight end with good hands is the most difficult factor for a defense to deal with. Often they are matched with a LB that they are just faster than! Two tight end sets further expose a defense in my opinion.
Right; I'm not sure I see a need for a FB with Chaney as OC.
Cover your eyes, Brad. Ready?
Okay. We’re making our hay passing the ball, and the running game simply has to be good enough. That doesn’t look like having a full-time FB on the roster. FWIW, I personally prefer the diversity of 2-RB sets, or if you need a blocker, a RB-TE combo.
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by Chris Pendley on Feb 10, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I want to win.
I do not care how.
Cheat. Lie. Steal. Throw the football.
All the same to me : )
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by Brad Shepard on Feb 10, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
if they lose a quarterback, you'd have to think UT would want to get two....
Considering our desperate need to recruit OLs, I don’t think they can afford to target 2 QBs. Dooley would have to wait until ’14 to look for 2 QBs. imho
GBO!!!
UT will search far and wide for an elite runner. Can they lure one if they throw the ball all over the field next year is another question?...
There are still a LOT of kids out there who are up on Tennessee history. If we find one who knows Graham, and how good he was, I think that situation will pretty much take care of itself. Everyone knows what a good paasing game does for the running game, and what a good running game does for the passing game. One hand washes the other.
GBO!!!
With two receiving tight ends on board, I think the Vols would like to go after a big, bruiser who is a premiere blocking tight end....
Not to mention, they can recruit a big FB to fill both roles…FB and big, bruising blocking TE. As long as they don’t recruit too much heigth.
GBO!!!
I think we're done with fullbacks
if we recruit a FB/TE, I’ll wager it’s primarily as a TE
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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