CBS May Not Broadcast Tennessee-Florida in 2012: Boo?
by Joel Hollingsworth on Feb 20, 2012 8:01 AM EST
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PrintFootball. How do you feel about CBS maybe not broadcasting the Tennessee-Florida game for the first time in 16 years this fall? I have mixed emotions. When we were doing well, I loved Verne and whomever Gary Danielson's predecessor was. That Danielson's arrival roughly coincided with Urban Meyer's and Tim Tebow's time at Florida may not be fair to Danielson, but it is what it is, and what it is for me is a level of disdain of which I am almost ashamed yet all too happy to embrace anyway. And he and time have ravaged Verne, so for me, my initial thought is something along the lines of "Well, as long as we're spring cleaning, we might as well throw this out, too." How about you?
I was initially very interested in reading this article on Dave Hart from al.com, but I was too surprised and distracted by the stink of troll breath to enjoy it. Like chocolate and garlic, I enjoy both fan perspective media and objective mainstream media, but it's best if they don't pass my palate at the same time.
Hoops. Well, the NCAA Tournament talk came to a screeching halt for the Tennessee basketball team on Saturday. Those 20-3 runs over nine minute stretches in must-win games tend to leave skid marks like that. But Cuonzo Martin says that the Unhappy Day isn't "the end of the world," which just proves that he's busy doing his job instead of listening to talk radio and reading message boards. And I don't think he's the one who brought this up, but do remember that People Who Presumably Know Things thought the Vols were the 11th-best team in the SEC but turned out to be wrong by seven (so far). Four, if you're wearing a color other than orange or if you are one of those People Who Presumably Know Things. Seriously, the team is tied for 4th in the SEC with games against Ole Miss (tied for 8th), South Carolina (last place), LSU (also tied for 4th), and a season closer at home against a good Vandy team. That's something, right?
Extries. Peyton Manning's added a "significant gift" to his scholarship program, increasing the annual recipients from one student to two. . . . GVX has a nice feature on new UT cornerbacks coach Derrick Ansley. . . . Mock drafts have Tauren Poole somewhere between Montario Hardesty and Arian Foster this year. Not bad.
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Avoiding Gary Danielson would be awesome
But not having CBS coverage….the intro music, the CBS score prompter, Verne’s voice on play by play…..those are all things I’m used to and would miss much more.
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by Craig T on Feb 20, 2012 8:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
(And Brad, I had to stop and think to ensure that I didn’t type TSIB.)
/trained
by David Hooper on Feb 20, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The price of mediocrity
Having the game at 2:30 central was a huge gain for me if attending the game (as I did in 2010 and plan to this year), as it meant I didn’t have to leave too early and wouldn’t get back too late
This is [fulmerized]
First the mega-insult of making the UT-NC State game a FRIDAY night game, then not even showing it on a real network, now (potentially) not even showing the UT/UF game on the SEC’s premier network?
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I'm wondering if CBS will change their tune if UT and Florida both come out hot.
For as mediocre as UT and Florida ended up being, it was actually decently important game last season.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 20, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions
Agreed
That game definitely changed the tune of UT’s season, and if I recall correctly it was the game that showed definitively that Brantley is not a good/great qb.
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So far, I am the only one who thinks this is a good thing
because it means the probability of a night game goes way up. This is the only game on the schedule I always want to be played at night. It will be louder, and if we beat NC State, the crowd will have that good and desperate feel we had against Oregon, only with a much higher chance of winning.
The article just mentions 1996, but the game was on ABC nationally the four years before that. The last time we played them on ESPN was 1991.
In that case, yes it's a good thing.
but my gut reaction to it not being on CBS is that it’s going to be a regionally televised game on “NBC Sports Network” (the new Versus)
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Does Versus 2.0 have rights to SEC games?
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 20, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Probably not
but I’d rather see that on Versus 2.0 vs it being on some other made up network (ESPNU, cough cough)
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If it's not on CBS...
it will almost certainly be the ESPN 7pm game, that’s our general #2 slot barring CBS deciding to do a doubleheader.
I know that's the likely thing
but I do have this fear that UT’s going to be playing on a no-name network (case in point, the NC State game)
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How do you figure this would make it more likely to be a night game?
Not disagreeing with you, just curious. Wouldn’t we kick off whenever the TV stations tell us to? And wouldn’t that depend on the other games that day?
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Florida-Tennessee is the only other conference game that day
Among other projected ranked teams, LSU is playing Idaho, South Carolina is playing UAB, and Georgia is playing Florida Atlantic. I just can’t imagine ESPN/2/U passing up on the game in one of their night slots. If we’re kicking off against Florida at 12:21 it’ll be because we lost to NC State or they lost to A&M (they also open with the Clawfense, so look out!)
by Will Shelton on Feb 20, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
The only other conference game besides Alabama/Arkansas
for those who may not have read the article
by Will Shelton on Feb 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
So if the Clawfense upsets Florida for the first time ever, will you believe?
I hope Georgia’s AD will.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 20, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I just need Dave Hart to believe
soon enough to schedule them while Boy Wonder is still there
by Will Shelton on Feb 20, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I'd be hesitant
I don’t know if we could handle all those playmakers in space…
Bring it across, shape it down
by Getoffmyvols on Feb 20, 2012 11:28 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
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Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
From a Vol-selfish utilitarian perspective, it is a good ting
We do better in night games against UF. The last time we played UF close was the last night game we played against them.
From a “what does this say about our program” perspective, this is not a good thing.
It says: “Tennessee you are no longer marquee and indeed your mere relevance is walking on a looser-than-regulation tightrope. If we’re talking public perception, you are more akin to Clemson or NC State than Alabama or USC. If any of this bothers you, perhaps you should consider channeling that energy in a constructive manner by penning a handwritten letter to your AD imploring him to take appropriate measures — whatever those may be — to win meaningful football games, and informing him that only successful execution of the same will ensure your continued purchase of season tickets.”
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Feb 21, 2012 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The last time we played Florida close
The Kiffin game was pretty close.
I agree that this is not a good sign, for us or for Florida (although Florida doesn’t have to worry as much about the fall from national relevance, what with their most recent championship being just four years ago. They are still considered one of the top programs in the country despite recent struggles.)
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Allow me to rephrase
The last game that I thought we were going to win — or at least had a good shot of winning — as the game was being played.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Feb 21, 2012 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought we had a good shot at that one
Until Kiffin seemed to fold up his tent in the second half.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
it's bad as it shows how far we've fallen
it has potential to be good in plenty of other respects. Like. . . night game!
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions
This hurts
Wow. This game decided the SEC East for over a decade. The mighty, on both sides, have fallen. Tennessee wins this game. This is the season that we actually turn it around due to an explosive, HEALTHY offense.
Muschamp better spread ’em because Dooley is comin in dry!
NCAA Tournament talk? What NCAA Tournament talk? I don't remember any NCAA Tournament talk.
#BeatOleMiss
I intend to be at the game, anyway, so it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference in the whole scheme of things.
But a night game would be sick.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions
1998 and 2004 were night games
and now I’m depressed because I just realized how godawful our home record is versus them. We’re actually better when we play them in the Swamp over the last 19 years.
2004 was sort of a night game...
it was a late kickoff where the sun set during the game… 1998 was a straight up night game
In night games against them since Spurrier's arrival:
1990: 45-3 W, Knoxville
1991: 35-18 L, Gainesville
1998: 20-17 W, Knoxville
1999: 23-21 L, Gainesville
2001: 34-32 W, Gainesville (ended at night thanks to December/Daylight Savings)
2004: 30-28 W, Knoxville
2005: 16-7 L, Gainesville
2006: 21-20 L, Knoxville
4-4 against Florida is about as good as it’s going to get for us.
by Will Shelton on Feb 20, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Since we started playing every year
We beat them in the Swamp in ’01 and ’03.
We beat them in Knoxville in ’90, ’92, ’98, and ’04.
We’re basically horrible against them no matter where we play, but slightly better in Knoxville
we're horrible in the Swamp, unless Casey Clausen plays
we’re pretty bad at home, no matter who plays
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
We haven't beat them in the Swamp sans Casey Clausen
since Fulmer was playing OL
Agreed
but this isn’t about the 90,000 loyal University of Tennessee fans/students/alum that’ll be singing Rocky Top all night, or even for the 12,000 swamp lizard bandwagoner fans that’ll have blood flow to their brains restricted by their jorts (probably why they can’t seem to figure out how to clap right).
This is about the alumni way out in California surrounded by bandwagon USC fans, who has to listen to daily people espouting the supposed high quality and moral fiber of one traiter (and Tee Martin). This is about the high school freshman qb in Texas who dreams of one day being the next Peyton Manning, who instead (if UT is on a fake network) is going to have to watch some Big 12 qb that has never faced a defense put up some crazy stats against some team that might as well be backups on even the worst SEC team. This is about the future Eric Berry-caliber safety that, instead of watching a team full of history, tradition, and fashion sense (such as the University of Tennessee), is going to have to watch slow, unathletic Wisconsin Badgers intramural Football vs the equally slow and unathletic Michigan State Condoms.
Frankly, I think it’s bad enough that any non-SEC games will be televised on national TV during any week of the season, much less the possibility that the latest installment of a rivalry that’s been going on since 1916 will be relegated to an inferior channel. It was bad enough the national media stole the Heisman Trophy from Peyton Manning and gave it to Charles Woodson, but what’s next, placing filters over the TV so that greatest of shades of oranges looks like it’s red or blue or black? Canceling the night race in Bristol? Making Jack Daniels and Smoky Mountain Moonshine illegal?
yeah… I rambled a bit.
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Someone's been watching too much West Wing.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 20, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Dexter, actually
though how that’s related, idk.
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I hit all six seasons of Dexter this fall
fun show.
how’d your Peach IPA end up turning out? My first (extract) batch is in the closet fermenting and I’m already thinking of what to try next. I think I may experiment with fruit, although I’m not sure exactly how that works
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
peach IPA turned out pretty good
except for a single bottle bomb. I’d suggest making an imperial stout, since if you mess up you probably won’t be able to tell the difference.
Fruit, generally, it’s either additions near the end of the primary fermentation or addition in the secondary.
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nice
I actually don’t have a secondary, and I keep hearing people say that fruit gets added when you transfer to secondary. I’m trying to figure out if there’s any reason not to just add to primary after a week or two and then just leave it in the primary for another couple weeks.
Batch in the closet right now is a porter from a beginner’s kit. My Dad’s birthday is in the middle of May, and he’s a Killian’s guy, but I gave him some Allagash White and he pronounced it the best beer he’d ever had. So I was thinking of trying a Belgian wit and seeing if I can add some kumquats, because they’re finally in season and are made from distilled awesome. Then once summer hits and I have some free time I’ll see what I can do about making a mash tun and figuring out all grain.
Or at least that’s the plan. But I don’t totally know what I’m doing yet, so we’ll see how it all goes
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
people don't like to add in the primary
because when the beer remains in the primary for more than a few weeks, the yeast start to eat each other and produce all kinds of non-delicious chemicals.
I personally still do extract, it’s working fairly decently for me. I’d suggest, though, instead of doing a Belgian wit (kinda a tough style to do), maybe trying for a pale ale (SNPA clone)
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gotcha
so one could theoretically add to primary if one didn’t have a secondary, provided the addition was early enough that the beer didn’t have to sit there for too long? (all I have is a carboy and a bottling bucket, so I don’t really have anything that could serve as secondary)
I’m definitely planning on doing a little more research though to figure out what I’m doing before I actually go make it. the first one was easy because it was from a kit.
and I do want to actually learn what’s up with grain brewing, and the summer feels like a good time to do that. depending on my degree of success, I may or may not be back with extracts when school starts back up
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
if the bottling bucket holds the beer
I’d just use the bottling bucket as a secondary, and be careful in the bottling.
If you switch to all-grain in the summer, make sure you do cooling well. Summer’s hard enough since it’s so hot, it’ll be tough to try a new method of brewing at the same time.
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I don't have any special temperature-controlled vessels
but I do have central AC, and I can keep my house between 68 and 70 just as easily in the summer as I can in the winter. And I have loads more time on my hands. Academic calendar.
For some reason, I’d gotten into my head that glass was greatly preferred in secondaries for some reason. Can’t remember why though. But yeah, it should hold everything. It has a small (half the size of a dime) hole in the lid probably meant to allow air out, although I’m not sure whether I need to stick a sanitized airlock or something in there
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
glass is generally preferred by many
since it has some advantages as far as sanitation goes. You’ll need to stick a sanitized airlock in the hole in the lid, (less than $0.50 at the local hb store probably), which ideally should hold some sanitized fluid in the airlock (see ).
For temperature control, I don’t do it yet, but what I’ve been looking at for my first temperature-control thing is
Definitely would be cheaper than keeping the house 68-70 in the summer for the sole purpose of brewing.
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forgot links
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/temperature-control-budget-77158/
http://files.joshmadison.com/homemade-beer-airlock_500.jpg
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and as far as the reason I was nervous about using the bucket as secondary
I believe I saw somewhere that a secondary should have less headspace because there isn’t as much risk of it foaming over and you want to prevent all the exposure from air that you can. And my bottling bucket is just as big as my 6.5 gallon carboy (or roughly as big)
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 21, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
you're right about the price
but my house is really tiny, and as it is the carboy is stuffed in the corner of a coat/cleaning closet. I’m not sure I’d have room for something like that. I actually do have an old fridge in storage at my parents’, and I’m pretty sure it would fit a 6.5 gallon carboy, it’s just a matter of finding a place to put it.
Of course, the advantage of a small house is that air conditioning is less expensive than it would be in a large one. And I’ve always been more sensitive to heat than cold. The last two winters in which I lived alone, I kept the house at about 45 degrees to save on heat (my sister is living with me now, so we’ve bumped it up to 65). I managed just fine. Last summer, I kept it at 73 and I felt like I was dying.
I do already have an airlock, although I’m still not not sure if I’m working it right. I haven’t figured out exactly what mechanism keeps the sanitized solution in, so I’m always worried about leaking it into the beer when I move it. Also, my very first time brewing two weeks ago, my stopper and airlock shot off onto the ceiling and krausen went everywhere. I now have the bottom piece of the airlock in with a siphon tube leading off into another bucket. Should probably just get a for real blowoff tube, but this works for now. And a blowoff tube wouldn’t fit in the hole in the lid of the plastic container anyways.
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 21, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Wow...
..and I think I keep my house cool! I generally have my thermostat set around 65 in the winter, and I can tolerate 76 in the summer.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
In that al.com article...
I kept looking for the connection our basketball team has to Alabama, but, well, it was never there. Unless it’s the part where he talks about Grant and Martin being similar coaches. But Hart didn’t hire CCM.
If you hire a good, experienced person for a job, haven’t they generally worked some other place before you hired them?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Hart hired Grant
but I didn’t read the al.com because I saw the word “troll”
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 20, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
It was pretty bad.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Saturday's loss...
… I blame the blue bow tie. That just wasn’t right.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Calipari...
should have to coach his next game wearing an orange bow tie.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
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